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Post by zelda on Jan 6, 2008 8:32:54 GMT 10
After posting in STATUS QUO, I'm gonna keep whining about my LACK OF ENTHUSIASM.I was really happy to see JEANIE again and her storyline was the only one which kept me interested... for a BAD reason...because it was connected with OLD ER...And I am a sucker for any references to Doug, Carol and the twins! But it won't be enough to make the ratings go up!!! And , again, last night episode, was very ordinary, because all the remaining characters have become annoying or transparent. It is particularly obvious with NEELA, who is the caricarure of what she used to be. Morris has been butchered and I don't care about the others. Whatever people think of ABBY 's baggage, she is the only one NOW who keeps the ER TRAIN ALIVE... Saying nothing about my LUKA boy...somewhere in Croaria, with the Gremlin! And with only 2 episodes to go, what can we expect???SAM-GA, the shipper of hell ? PRATT becoming CHIEF at last and dancing on ADMIT DESK with his " dysfunctional ER family" ? BOFFFFFFFFF!!!
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Post by andrejia on Jan 6, 2008 14:05:55 GMT 10
Oh...I have to disagree with you about last night's episode. I did like it and it showed - to me - that I'm still interested in the show, Luka/Abby or not. I am nostalgic myself, but I don't miss Carol and Doug, since I had nothing invested in their storyline (and still hate Carol). However, I do miss good writing. They've focused on Abby (mostly) so much that they left everyone else in the background, which I don't think it's fair. Yes, MT carries the show, but only because TPTB allowed her to. I have no doubt that other actors are as gifted. I like Abby (although I'm not a big fan), I did even before she was with Luka but if it weren't for this relationship, I think I'd be just a regular viewer.
Like others said, it feels like teenagers are writing for the other characters. They did use a lot of humor back in the days, even with characters who were a bit immature and pretty annoying, to some. Compare the way Malucci was written with the way Morris is. I know they have to have some sort of contrast, they can't do drama for everyone but sometimes it just looks stupid. Like the rolling cheese stuff. The writing went downhill a lot...they just can't seem to find any good storylines for the others.
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Post by Praline on Jan 13, 2008 11:51:54 GMT 10
- The shift from multiple patient stories to one or two. The episodes used to center around the medicine, and the characters' lives happened in the background. Now, we're left with a slower pace and less attention to the medicine.
This is what I think has killed ER as well. As much as I love Luby it is stuff like it that has ruined ER, Luby and other relationships should be in the background and I love Grey's but ER shouldn't keep trying to be like it - they are two completely different shows. I think that TPTM have tried to copy grey's too much which focuses more on the characters and less on the medicine when the opposite is what made Er so great.
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Post by -SAN. on Feb 2, 2008 19:23:44 GMT 10
I'll admit it right now - I watch ER because of Luka. If he's gone, I'm gone.
With that said, I want to state that the shows I enjoy the most are ones that focus on the patients - I'm terrible about remembering which episodes or even seasons, but some of my favourite episodes are the one which was shot in 'real time' with Ray Liotta as the dying alcoholic patient, I liked the more recent one with the standup comic too sick from a recurring bout with leukemia to perform at a comedy club, so in the end he did his act from his hospital bed.
I liked the episode with James Woods playing the professor suffering from a wasting muscular disease... very good that.
It's also good when characters storylines are focused on. Pratt's meeting his father after an absence of many years; Carter dealing with his drug addiction; Neela and Gallant; Abby's dealings with her mother Maggie when she had yet another cycle with her mental illness, ("The Dance We Do," lol) and of course Lukas story arcs with the Bishop, in Africa, and Curtis Ames.
I still like Pratt, and want to see something more done with Neela. I didn't care about the Hope character, and I just got tired of Sam's story altogether. In all fairness, I haven't paid much attention this year to the episodes that didn't have Luka, so will not comment about those.
The show has changed from the earlier days (who can forget the eisode where Mark Greene is treating a woman in labour and bit by bit it all goes horribly wrong?) - but it doesn't surprise me. In real life things change too, and while I haven't liked the way some characters' stories have ended in past years, (Ray, Susan, Jerry, Elizabeth, Doug) I did enjoy others; (Carol, Mark, Carter, Kerri, Benton.) The latter made sense to me, and sounded logical, much how things change in life.
I'm really hoping Luka and Abby will get a decent wrapup on the show, and they don't just end up disappearing (like Susan did) to live in Croatia. Hopefully I won't have to wait until NEXT season to find out...
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