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Post by annita on Jul 18, 2007 7:28:40 GMT 10
LOL!
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Post by crazzy11 on Jul 18, 2007 9:27:21 GMT 10
annita, this article is the back up for Ivana's Wild past! It'll be translated soon - source is AEB
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cloudy
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Post by cloudy on Jul 18, 2007 10:16:52 GMT 10
The thing is (for me) that "marriage" doesn't exist in any absolute sense; "marriages" do and what may strike at the heart of one may simply be a glancing blow for another. I'm not in a position to judge what other people find they can or can't accommodate in their relationships and I understand that I'm in a minority in not seeing a night of drunken in fidelity as necessarily the worst thing that can happen; I can't say "You shouldn't let it negate all the good things in the marriage" because people feel whatever they feel - but , although it's received wisdom that infidelity is an insurmountable offence, I don't think it need be; I'm also pretty sure that people get round it much more often than we ever know about. We generally only find out about it when they can't. I agree with you. I haven't said anything about this situation, but I kinda don't like how some Goran "fans" are bashing him now and saying that they no longer respect him for what he has done. Like mentioned before, this affair may have been more than a one night stand, and if that has been the case, then obviously G and I's marriage is lacking something. And if it really was just a drunken one night stand, than it was prob an honest mistake. I mean that doesn't make Goran's actions are excusable but I suppose it is reasonable and forgivable one way or the other. Also, marriage is so subjective. Everyone has their separate, individualized relationship with their significant other, and w/e works for that couple, should stay within that couple. Just because you think certain things, have certain "rules" or agreements, or act a certain way with each other doesn't mean that every other couple should act the same way as you. Some people think Goran comitted adultery or some type of immoral sin mainly because it is against some kind of religion, but that again is subjective and not written in stone for the whole rest of the world, even for ppl within that specific religion. I, like any women would be hurt if my significant other did that to me yes, but depending on the real and personal reasons, I would forgive. Regardless of what Goran did, I'm still his fan and think he's still hot. And as bad as this may sound, if I was single or really unhappy with a relationship, and I knew and liked Goran personally (yea right, I can only dream) and saw that he may be unhappy in any way shape or form in his marriage, I would have that affair too.
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Post by larue on Jul 18, 2007 12:04:54 GMT 10
'Nuff said!
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Post by maggie on Jul 18, 2007 13:26:58 GMT 10
It'll be translated soon - source is AEB AEB is not a source, it's a forum. Unless someone from AEB went and did the interviews and research, I believe the "source" is national.hr As for the term "Wild Child", it's backup for nothing. It's a common phrase to describe someone who rebels in their youth, which covers about 85% of humans. And what people do as teens or even in their twenties is generally not indicative of what they do once they're stable adults.
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Post by mrseyre on Jul 18, 2007 18:18:23 GMT 10
And a good thing too or most of us would be well and truely screwed - or perhaps that's just me.
Dredging that stuff up is low.
Cloudy - thanks for your post; I think we're on the same page - even if that page is pretty sparsely populated!
I should add that I don't feel the need to "respect" Goran or anyone else to enjoy his work, nor, not having had any direct dealings with him, am I in a position to judge whether he would deserve it even without this latest kerfuffle; I wouldn't stop using my local grocer because I found out she'd strayed and I wouldn't feel entitled to be angry about it either. If Goran still has the love and affection of his wife and family he has all he needs.
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Post by debz1616 on Jul 18, 2007 20:09:02 GMT 10
I guess I'm with you on that mrseyre, oh my teenage years!!! and on Dredging that stuff up is low. I really don't understand why ppl want to bash Ivana when 99% of the ppl on this board and other boards haven't even meet her. Like my last post, most is gossip and hear-say after all, what is her crime, why is she being bashed, is it because she married to a guy she loves? debz
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Post by frosty on Jul 18, 2007 20:10:52 GMT 10
And if he doesn't?
These stories about Ivana aren't leaking themselves.
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Post by debz1616 on Jul 18, 2007 20:16:34 GMT 10
Thats between them to work out, its nothing to do with us. debz ps this is from momentator on AEB, BTW the internet in the U.S. is governed by more or less the same libel and defamation laws as the print media.
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Post by snowfall on Jul 19, 2007 0:03:08 GMT 10
Once again, I am not so interested in using the behavior to judge the character of the person. I am inclined to agree that what happened so long ago would usually be a moot point. As such, I am amazed it hit Croatian media now, what has it to do with the situation at hand? The only thing I can think of is that it does seem to point back to the rumors that there was some arrangement aspect to the marriage. If that were true, and I have no idea whether that is true or not, then the "rules" of the marriage could be very different from more traditional marriages, i.e. in terms of the acceptance of affairs or not. It could possibly inform Goran's current behavior - or at least put it in a different light - to some - although maybe not all.
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Post by mrseyre on Jul 19, 2007 0:27:56 GMT 10
Why are you surprised? Tabloids drag up all sorts of stuff from years ago on any pretext; they currently have a pretext. I don't suppose they actually know any more about the marriage than we do. The things posted here about that marriage aren't facts and aren't backed up by anything, posted by someone who is posting the same things elsewhere under a different name. (crazy11 - you are Katrin11 at AEB, aren't you?) and who clearly has some sort of deeply felt need to pour venom on Ivana and on Goran.
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Post by snowfall on Jul 19, 2007 1:03:38 GMT 10
I'm surprised because surely there's more interesting and timely gossip in the world than what happened 10 years ago and was reported at that time, the current situation perhaps.
The point is that no one knows about their marriage. It might have been/may be wonderful and Goran made a mistake and has been forgiven. It also is possible the affair is a symptom, not the problem, of a less than happy marriage. If it turns out to be true as MR is now saying, that this was not a one night affair, but a long standing affair - then there will be two possibilities - Goran is not only a cheat, but after that interview a tremendous liar, or that this is a very complicated situation with underlying motives we have no clue to. Should it be revealed he engaged in a long standing affair - then I would lean towards the complicated situation scenario myself. Whatever the status of their marriage - it was co-created. I'm not sure why raising questions and pointing out inconsistencies - provokes such strong emotion.
I have no venom for either Goran or Ivana. They chose, apparently, to make private things public in their interviews. These interviews have raised questions in me for one. I'm not sure why that is a problem.
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Post by crazzy11 on Jul 19, 2007 1:10:13 GMT 10
It'll be translated soon - source is AEB AEB is not a source, it's a forum. Unless someone from AEB went and did the interviews and research, I believe the "source" is national.hr As for the term "Wild Child", it's backup for nothing. It's a common phrase to describe someone who rebels in their youth, which covers about 85% of humans. And what people do as teens or even in their twenties is generally not indicative of what they do once they're stable adults. AEB is the source for FINDING the article and for Translating it.
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Post by rorygilmore on Jul 19, 2007 7:44:38 GMT 10
AEB is not a source, it's a forum. Unless someone from AEB went and did the interviews and research, I believe the "source" is national.hr As for the term "Wild Child", it's backup for nothing. It's a common phrase to describe someone who rebels in their youth, which covers about 85% of humans. And what people do as teens or even in their twenties is generally not indicative of what they do once they're stable adults. AEB is the source for FINDING the article and for Translating it. AEB is not a source since they only made the translation, the source would be the article itself .
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Post by crazzy11 on Jul 19, 2007 10:41:39 GMT 10
That's exactly what I meant, thank you Rory!
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