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Post by Cornflake Girl on May 19, 2007 18:54:24 GMT 10
I totally caved and read all the Abby spoilers skipped the rest - cause I couldn't care less. Plus I am hoping by September I will have forgotten most of them, not that there is anything significant going on.
With all this talk of passports I was wondering, did they not need a passport to go to Hawaii? I realise it is part of the States but they are still presumably getting on an international flight, or at least a flight that has people from other countries, wouldn't they have needed a passport for that?
Years ago children could travel on their parents passports but for many years that has not been the case, at least here in NZ, and I imagine with the strict travelling laws it would be worldwide. We used to have passports that were valid for 10 years but they have just changed it to 5, I was so annoyed because I had to renew mine this year for my trip to the UK next month and it only last 5 years!!! and cost me $150! $150 to make me look like a freaking albino on drugs, I swear no one looks like themselves in their passport photos.
Anyway I can totally buy that they need time to issue a passport, but would Joe need visa's seeing he is part Croatian? Surely four weeks is a long time, only takes 10 days here to issue a passport, and when I worked in a travel agency in the UK visa's didn't take all that long to obtain, Heck I had to get the Right to Abode for the UK when I was going on my O.E and it took less than two weeks...
In anycase I hope we get to hear Abby talk about missing Luka or about what is going on with him being away.
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Post by maggie on May 19, 2007 19:16:26 GMT 10
It's got something to do with actually applying for citizenship, I believe - I don't think it's automatic, I believe for Joe (and Abby, as she is equally eligible by marriage in Croatia) to gain citzenship, there's an application process, forms, etc. that are more complicated than the passport itself. My father is eligible for EU status because of my grandmother (she immigrated to the US) but he'd have to apply to get the legal issues sorted.
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Post by Cornflake Girl on May 19, 2007 21:31:08 GMT 10
OK yeah I buy that ^^^
My sister who has lived in the UK for the last ten years under a UK passport is applying for NZ citizenship as she wants to bring her family back home and she had to apply for that even though she has lived here most of her life other than the first year of her life when she was born in the UK and the last ten years. And on top of that she found out her two children are not automatically granted NZ citizenship under her which is plain stupid! The embassy told her it can take up to six months!!! And she is a Kiwi.
So I guess looking at it that way it isn't such a stretch to believe that Abby and Joe are stuck in the States.
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Post by alaeangelorum on May 20, 2007 6:48:18 GMT 10
With all this talk of passports I was wondering, did they not need a passport to go to Hawaii? I realise it is part of the States but they are still presumably getting on an international flight, or at least a flight that has people from other countries, wouldn't they have needed a passport for that? No, you only need a passport to change countries (as far as I know), doesn't matter who else is on the flight. I have flown from London to Belfast (which is across the sea but in the same country) without needing a passport - you go in to domestic arrivals so you bypass passport control. You need photo ID now for planes, but I don't think Joe as a baby would need that? In fact that's probably why they chose Hawaii - because they wouldn't all need passports. Apparently there have been problems in the US because the passport rules have changed and you now need a passport to go to Canada... and there are all sorts of rules about kids getting passports. I guess in ER Land they can kind of take some creative license with the time, whatever the real situation is.
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Post by Lubyfanatic316 on May 21, 2007 10:27:36 GMT 10
Thanks for the info!
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Post by larue on May 21, 2007 13:48:36 GMT 10
Apparently there have been problems in the US because the passport rules have changed and you now need a passport to go to Canada... and there are all sorts of rules about kids getting passports.
Just crossed the US Canadian border this weekend for a soccer tournament. Didn't need passports for the kids...yet. Supposedly they are developing a special passport ID for people thatonly travel across the Canadian border. Had to show my son's citizenship papers and my daughter's Russian adoption paperwork. HE was adopted before the Citizenship act of 2000 which made my dgtr, an automatic citizen based on her adoption. We did thr citizenhip paperwork for him prior to that legislation. Quite frankly, $316 for citizenship papers VS $84 for a passport?? Gonna do the passport route for her.
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Post by maggie on May 21, 2007 16:19:57 GMT 10
Well, according to what I've heard, it's definately the case that Abby and Joe are eligible. So it's likely just a matter of logistics and/or getting the passport in time. It takes seven to ten days if you expedite it, which would be frustrating if she wanted to get there ASAP.
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Post by Cornflake Girl on May 21, 2007 18:05:14 GMT 10
I imagine if Abby just wanted to get to Croatia to see Luka then she would just go for the passport and try to get the citizenship stuff done at a later date. So if that is the case TPTB are going to have to come up with some other reason for her not to be there to satisfy me, or else Luka will have to show up for one of his six episodes early on in the season
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Post by daniella on May 21, 2007 22:03:56 GMT 10
I imagine if Abby just wanted to get to Croatia to see Luka then she would just go for the passport and try to get the citizenship stuff done at a later date. So if that is the case TPTB are going to have to come up with some other reason for her not to be there to satisfy me, or else Luka will have to show up for one of his six episodes early on in the season I think she's getting her residency finshed first... that's why dhe won't go... but personally. I think the episodes will be in the middle of the season, so... Dani
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Post by annita on May 22, 2007 0:45:52 GMT 10
It may be that Abby can't get time off early on since it is obvious they are short-staffed, as both Luka and Ray are not working, and Moretti may have insisted she stay because she is only a resident and it is a requirement?
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Post by larue on May 22, 2007 10:47:38 GMT 10
It's got something to do with actually applying for citizenship, I believe - I don't think it's automatic, I believe for Joe (and Abby, as she is equally eligible by marriage in Croatia) to gain citzenship, there's an application process, forms, etc. that are more complicated than the passport itself. My father is eligible for EU status because of my grandmother (she immigrated to the US) but he'd have to apply to get the legal issues sorted. Hmmm...so they could hold dual citizenship in Croatia and the US? Cool.
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Post by maggie on May 22, 2007 15:46:58 GMT 10
It's got something to do with actually applying for citizenship, I believe - I don't think it's automatic, I believe for Joe (and Abby, as she is equally eligible by marriage in Croatia) to gain citzenship, there's an application process, forms, etc. that are more complicated than the passport itself. My father is eligible for EU status because of my grandmother (she immigrated to the US) but he'd have to apply to get the legal issues sorted. Hmmm...so they could hold dual citizenship in Croatia and the US? Cool. Theoretically. But the US frowns upon dual citizenship, so it could be tricky.
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Post by larue on May 22, 2007 16:03:07 GMT 10
My daughter has dual citizenship until her 18th birthday. It was a stipulation in our Russian adoption.
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Post by rorygilmore on May 22, 2007 16:35:42 GMT 10
OT: I have dual citizenship and when I use my Italian passport; I don't need any visa to walk into US. I think it's a matter of agreements between the countries. So I'll dare to say rules vary.
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Post by daniella on May 23, 2007 0:45:48 GMT 10
Well, I can apply for dual citzenship, but it's higgly improbably that I will gain acess to Italian passport... my grandparents ( in my father's side ) are Italian, but when the come to Brazil, the name on the regiter birth and on the papers were mispelled and I can't proove... I know that because my cousin already tried...
But for Abby and Joe are different rulles... and other thing, Luka can apply for American citzenship, too...
Dani
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