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Post by dubenkojunkie on Sept 21, 2007 7:40:41 GMT 10
I think we're all aware of the fact that it's fiction, and IMO, I don't think anyone is particularly worked up, simply not thrilled with this particular storyline. I, for one, am not at all thrilled by it. Exactly. People are in the habit of calling attention to inconsistencies and short comings in these storylines. There is only so much suspension of disbelief most people are willing to employ when watching a show. Eventually you get to the point where it becomes absurd. Luka offering Abby that beer obviously is that point for many people who have followed these characters for so long.
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Post by annita on Sept 21, 2007 7:58:48 GMT 10
It is absurd, IMO. It has to either be an error somewhere or Zabel has something in mind that we're just not getting with words. Perhaps it's a dream? I know I'm feeling like some of these epis will be nightmares (LOL)!
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Post by mrseyre on Sept 21, 2007 8:00:27 GMT 10
Well, that would rather undermine the "speculation" element of this thread, wouldn't it? And an experienced doctor offering a known alcoholic a beer isn't "nothing" - it's absurd. It's a TV show!! And it wasn't even on screen yet! A little too early to be all worked up for my tatse! Thread title: Spoilers & Speculation. Of course it hasn't been on screen yet. If you don't like people talking about what hasn't yet aired this isn't really the thread for you.
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Post by Jill on Sept 21, 2007 8:08:55 GMT 10
It is absurd, IMO. It has to either be an error somewhere or Zabel has something in mind that we're just not getting with words. Perhaps it's a dream? I know I'm feeling like some of these epis will be nightmares (LOL)! Maybe Zabel has lost his touch.
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Post by icequeen on Sept 21, 2007 8:10:03 GMT 10
So far Zabel has been a good storyteller and show runner, I'm hoping he's got a plan. Otherwise, I think I'll tune out and leave A & L in I Don't as my memory of them. No need to ruin the main characters or main couple in the last season of the show.
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Post by annita on Sept 21, 2007 8:15:19 GMT 10
I can't imagine that Zabel lost his touch or that the actors would be happy with anything except a happy ending. Numerous interviews they've given still refer back to how upset they were when Luka had to say Abby wasn't that pretty or special and Zabel said in the blog that it wasn't him. They've really invested way too much in this relationship to cast anything about it to the side. Luka and Abby are the heart and soul, IMO, and I believe in Zabel's as well.
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Post by cloudy on Sept 21, 2007 8:17:13 GMT 10
I guess I'm just hoping that she's dressed unlike when she woke up in Luka's bedroom in a towel. Hehe... you mean naked...
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Post by Jill on Sept 21, 2007 9:00:24 GMT 10
I think we will have our Happy Ending too. But I wonder what kind of price will have to be paid? And how much the luby fans can take.
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Post by larue on Sept 21, 2007 9:26:41 GMT 10
Well...I am in for the long haul. As long as Maura is on the show, I will watch. When she's gone, I'll be gone. There is just no longer anyone else that I really care about. Sad...but true.
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Post by annita on Sept 21, 2007 9:59:31 GMT 10
It is sad, but I totally agree w/ you Larue. I started the downward spiral at the end of Season 10, tried to ignore Season 11 altogether and only became reinvested in Season 12 - 13. I'm in for Season 14 to simply ride the train to their happy ending. Other than Morris, who cracks me up, nothing is really holding my interest anymore.
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Post by Christabelle on Sept 21, 2007 10:15:34 GMT 10
OK, i don't understand why is Luka offering Abby a beer..? he just wouldn't do that! Heres what i think, Moretti or Neela have spoken to Luka about Abby recent behavior and he's testing her because of either two scenarios. Firstly, Luka seeing that Abby is not herself and realizing that maybe she is drinking again or secondly he is totally oblivious to it all and thinks that Moretti and Neela have got it all wrong (as Abby refuses the beer), that she was just tired and stressed from working and looking after Joe and knowing Abby she wouldn't say outright to Luka that she has relapsed.
Also, i personally don't think that Abby slept with Morettie, the whole reference to a patient that 'everybody screws up' is about her drinking again. Seeing Luka back, reality hits her, she knows what she is doing is wrong, she feels guity and this is what makes her feel sick.
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Post by dubenkojunkie on Sept 21, 2007 10:17:19 GMT 10
This elusive happy ending isn't going to seem even remotely plausible if Abby is falling down drunk, cheating on her husband and Luka is a clueless twit about her disease. They've dug a very deep hole for the couple to work their way out of, I don't see it being resolved to any real satisfaction in a handful of episodes.
This is GV's second episode out of a rumored 4-6. Either they are going to have to get VERY creative with the time line or there are more episodes with GV in them than we think.
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Post by dubenkojunkie on Sept 21, 2007 10:19:01 GMT 10
OK, i don't understand why is Luka offering Abby a beer..? he just wouldn't do that! Heres what i think, Moretti or Neela have spoken to Luka about Abby recent behavior and he's testing her because of either two scenarios. Firstly, Luka seeing that Abby is not herself and realizing that maybe she is drinking again or secondly he is totally oblivious to it all and thinks that Moretti and Neela have got it all wrong (as Abby refuses the beer), that she was just tired and stressed from working and looking after Joe and knowing Abby she wouldn't say outright to Luka that she has relapsed. One question, in the eppie, 'I don't' when they are making a toast to Luka and Abby, what was in her champagne glass? You don't bait an alcoholic like that then get mad at them for accepting your offer. That's revolting and makes Luka even worse than being an ignorant enabler.
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Post by annita on Sept 21, 2007 10:26:08 GMT 10
So true Dubenko Junkie. I still can't imagine though that the actors and writers would allow the characters and relationship that's developed so beautifully go to the dogs! After 14 years, I don't believe they want to be remembered as the show with the worst last season ever!
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Post by daniella on Sept 21, 2007 10:33:09 GMT 10
It is an affirmative ? Did she really cheat on him ? Or are you just speculating ?
Dani
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