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Post by crazzy11 on Aug 1, 2007 1:24:22 GMT 10
100% Agreed with!
And that adoption interview given by Ivana only reinforces that thought.
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Post by snowfall on Aug 1, 2007 1:27:36 GMT 10
For sure ... I would like to believe that most people who give up their children for adoption do so to give their child a so-called "better life" and I further believe that the majority of adoptive parents do so for just that reason. Unfortunately, in this case, what keeps jumping up at me is - and this is only my opinion - that I have a gut feeling that this particular adoption was initiated and rushed during MR's pregnancy and for all of the wrong reasons. And then broadcast widely via Ivana's interview to Story in the Croatian and then the US media, and in a way that was guaranteed to goad MR. If I recall, in the original interview that Ivana gave, she said that the only person who knew about the adoption was the lawyer, who made sure everything went smoothly. I'll bet. I also think there is no way that the birth mother does not know about all of this. I can't help feeling that a vulnerable young woman was misled and, in my opinion, horribly manipulated - even to the point of having her baby induced on a specific date.
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Post by debz1616 on Aug 1, 2007 2:03:32 GMT 10
From momentator (AEB) BTW the internet in the U.S. is governed by more or less the same libel and defamation laws as the print media.
I can't help feeling that a vulnerable young woman was misled and, in my opinion, horribly manipulated - even to the point of having her baby induced on a specific date.
Not that I'm a lawyer but shouldn't you be careful saying things like that? Where did it say she was induced? debs
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Post by larue on Aug 1, 2007 2:06:41 GMT 10
Unfortunately, in this case, what keeps jumping up at me is - and this is only my opinion - that I have a gut feeling that this particular adoption was initiated and rushed during MR's pregnancy and for all of the wrong reasons.
I don't know. They had done research about international adoption laws and the process from homestudy to referral (even in a private adoption) can be a long, drawn out affair. They had to be at least THINKING about it prior to this thing.
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Post by annita on Aug 1, 2007 2:06:57 GMT 10
I really don't think we should start quoting legalities here as the poster clearly identified the remark as being their own opinion. By the way, per IV own words, the delivery was induced because she actually claimed the date was special to both she and GV. People here are merely commenting upon statements and behaviors of the parties who brought this public.
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Post by debz1616 on Aug 1, 2007 2:11:28 GMT 10
I've just scan read IV interview again but can't find it... maybe I'm reading the wrong interview could you let me know which one it was. Thanks debs PS it was their opinion but it has been said in print.
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Post by annita on Aug 1, 2007 2:17:12 GMT 10
Larue ... you could be right. However, IMO and based on the published comments, I believe IV/GV only became proficient in the laws regarding domestic/international adoption for present circumstance and the interviews pertaining thereto. The coincidental circumstances surrounding the birth and/or adoption are too great and, therefore, leaves plenty of room for doubt and/or speculation.
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Post by snowfall on Aug 1, 2007 2:18:50 GMT 10
I've just scan read IV interview again but can't find it... maybe I'm reading the wrong interview could you let me know which one it was. Thanks debs PS it was their opinion but it has been said in print. It was the date given in the presumably leaked article in Star and National Enquirer....and posted on your own board: "The croatian sweethearts, who met at a bar in Zagreb in 1996 and married 3 years later, worked with an L.A adoption agency and will welcome the infant on April 19, when the mother, a 24yr old woman from Ohio, delivers, a source says." Goran and Ivana are thrilled about becoming parents," says a source."Unless I am much mistaken, April 19 was indeed the date that Tin was born. www.gogoranvisnjicatbleuprofond2.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=376&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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Post by debz1616 on Aug 1, 2007 2:27:52 GMT 10
LOL, I hadn't seen that, I would like to point out that alot of mother are induced but we know that this isn't true Meanwhile, the source says that Goran plans to take the baby with him when he works with Daniel Craig on the upcoming James Bond movie, Congrats, you two!
and posted on your own board its not my board... I'm just a mod. thanks for the link debs
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Post by snowfall on Aug 1, 2007 2:45:04 GMT 10
LOL, I hadn't seen that, I would like to point out that alot of mother are induced However, the date of their induction is not usually broadcast by the person adopting their baby in a tabloid newspaper. Moreover, for the most part, an induction is carried out because of concerns for the health of the baby or the mother, not so it coincides with the adopter's so-called special day.
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Post by annita on Aug 1, 2007 3:20:40 GMT 10
Why does it seem that a problem begins to arise when a contrary view is taken to the idea that:
(1) Goran and Ivana have a fairy tale marriage, (2) Goran was drunk and was forced to have sex with a woman he was not attracted to, (3) Mirela is simply a tramp and homewrecker, (4) Ivana is a saint (5) Goran is almost a saint since he admitted he made one mistake; (6) GV/IV are just so saintly that not only do they contribute to various charities, they even contributed a monthly alowance to a delusional homewrecker, (7) the Visnjics sole purpose of adopting an innocent child was to solidify their fairy tale marriage, (8) it's a coincidence that the adoption coincided with the birth, and most important (9) the comments and interviews made pubic by the parties involved were not self serving, but simply for the sole purpose of letting the public know how strong the Visnjic marriage is, even if it is at the expense of two innocent children.
IMO ... it seems as if those who do not agree with the above-identified notions are being held to a different standard as those who do and that IMO is simply not fair.
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Post by annita on Aug 1, 2007 4:32:10 GMT 10
However, the date of their induction is not usually broadcast by the person adopting their baby in a tabloid newspaper. Moreover, for the most part, an induction is carried out because of concerns for the health of the baby or the mother, not so it coincides with the adopter's so-called special day.
So true. Believe me, there's no pleasure in being induced. I was induced for two of my three and they were not personal choices, but rather medical choices made by the doctor.
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Post by crazzy11 on Aug 1, 2007 5:25:36 GMT 10
Why does it seem that a problem begins to arise when a contrary view is taken to the idea that: (1) Goran and Ivana have a fairy tale marriage, (2) Goran was drunk and was forced to have sex with a woman he was not attracted to, (3) Mirela is simply a tramp and homewrecker, (4) Ivana is a saint (5) Goran is almost a saint since he admitted he made one mistake; (6) GV/IV are just so saintly that not only do they contribute to various charities, they even contributed a monthly alowance to a delusional homewrecker, (7) the Visnjics sole purpose of adopting an innocent child was to solidify their fairy tale marriage, (8) it's a coincidence that the adoption coincided with the birth, and most important (9) the comments and interviews made pubic by the parties involved were not self serving, but simply for the sole purpose of letting the public know how strong the Visnjic marriage is, even if it is at the expense of two innocent children. IMO ... it seems as if those who do not agree with the above-identified notions are being held to a different standard as those who do and that IMO is simply not fair. I second that!
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Post by snowfall on Aug 1, 2007 6:05:15 GMT 10
IMO ... it seems as if those who do not agree with the above-identified notions are being held to a different standard as those who do and that IMO is simply not fair. I agree. I do think that there are real double standards operating. For the most part, people are simply reflecting and expressing their opinions based on what is in the public domain. For the record, I think both women (ie. Ivana and Mirela) are self-serving attention-seekers - and that opinion is based entirely on what they themselves have put in the public arena.
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Post by debz1616 on Aug 1, 2007 6:29:15 GMT 10
Lubylove2 you lost me somewhere, hang on a sec... By the way, per IV own words, the delivery was induced because she actually claimed the date was special to both she and GV. ER's Goran Visnjic to Adopt!
ER hottie Goran,34, and his wife, sculptor Ivana Vrdoljak, are adopting a baby boy, sources have reported! The croatian sweethearts, who met at a bar in Zagreb in 1996 and married 3 years later, worked with an L.A adoption agency and will welcome the infant on April 19, when the mother, a 24yr old woman from Ohio, delivers, a source says." Goran and Ivana are thrilled about becoming parents," says a source. "They're thankful that this young woman is willing to give the child a chance at having a wonderful life. " the woman will be induced at L.A's Cedars-Sinai Medical Centre and will return to Ohio to recover, says the source. Meanwhile, the source says that Goran plans to take the baby with him when he works with Daniel Craig on the upcoming James Bond movie, Congrats, you two!
I doubt a DR would just induce a baby because of it being a special date, I know when some ppl have a C-section they are given a date.
Ok, I have to ask, just to clear things up.....are there ppl on this board that actually think or are suggesting that there is something illegal or corrupt with this adoption? debs
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