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Post by crazzy11 on Jul 19, 2007 12:31:23 GMT 10
www.24sata.hr/index.php?c...=main_page PART ONE; 24 sata, 18.07.2007. The title of this new article is TITLE: "Rupic: We didn't run into each other, Visnjic called me" LEAD: The most popular woman in Sibenik at this moment, Mirela Rupic, came into public so that she could make a comment on a big interview that Goran Visnjic recently gave. PART TWO: Mirela Rupic (36) told to media her side of the truth about the love affaire that she had with Goran Visnjic (35). She confirmed that they were having relationship since 2003. and that haven't met accidentaly last summer. "Goran and I were for the first time together in summer 2003. and we felt chemistry between us from the very beginning, and last year in June we didn't ran into each other. He called me and asked to go out together"- Mirela told in an exclusive interview that she gave to one Croatian weekly magazine. PART 3; She says that Goran Visnjic got affraid for his marriage when she told him that she is pregnant, but that also he accepted the situation and told her "Let's go on, what happened- it happened" She remembered the time when she was in the fifth month of pregnancy and when she got two voice messages from Ivana Vrdoljak. " When I heard 2 messages of Goran's wife in my voice mail, I got sick from insults and ugly things. I had to make an emergency call"- said woman from Sibenik in the interview. She reveiled that she is planning to baptize her little daughter Lana Lourdes at 9th of September, on Visnjic's birthday. She says that she knows that he will not be there, by her side.
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Post by crazzy11 on Jul 19, 2007 13:20:57 GMT 10
Yes, and more important, funny, but GV actually sounds like GV here. Hum........
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Post by debz1616 on Jul 19, 2007 18:28:10 GMT 10
Has MR said where the night was spent and given any dates on when they meet up before the night in question?
katrin11 / crazzy11 why do you have different nicks? debz
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Post by jen on Jul 19, 2007 23:52:14 GMT 10
Damn, what the hell is this chick going on about for twelve pages?! Both sides really need to shut up now. They are revealing way too much info. Have some dignity.
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Post by daniella on Jul 20, 2007 0:34:09 GMT 10
I think that she will make a book... telling what, i don't know... maybe it is in her dream... Ok, kidding... well... not trying to enter in another argument... but I think that we can have all our opinion, like said by Wendy and Rory... but let's try not to make any rude coments about the three involved in this case... I think it's to soon for us to take any conclusion yet, we don't know anything for sure and to not say he or she is guilty, let's innocent everyone in here... Many will say that Goran is not innocent ( he even assumed that ) but he is sorry ( even if some don't believe in him ) about all this and will assume his compromises... MR is not guilty or innicent and the same works for IV( I still think she is a vitim here, but as some don't, I will not fight... ) Dani
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Post by crazzy11 on Jul 20, 2007 4:46:35 GMT 10
Mirela's side : Translation Zagreb01 AEB - (Gee she is more rational and things now make sense)
PART ONE:
Gloria magazine, number 654, 19.07.2006. Exclusive interview of Mirela Rupic journalist: Kristinka Scavina
TITLE: "My truth about Goran Visnjic"
LEAD: With public confession that he cheated on his wife Ivana (39) (with who he is in marriage for eight years), Goran Visnjic (36), star of the TV serial "ER" , became main subject last week. His sin was on every front page of daily newspapers and TV shows were having debates about his case. Public was shocked with actors statements. His statements about Mirela Rupic(36), woman from Sibenik who pressed charges against Visnjic demanding DNA testing and alimony in amount of 10 000 kuna, were louder than his confession about adultery. Especialy shocking ahd insulting were were actor's words about 4 month old Lana Lourdes, for who she told that it is a product of a one night stand, which happend to him, he says, in condition of heavy drunkness. PART TWO:
In that way Goran Visnjic and his wife Ivana, daughter of movie director Antun Vrdoljak, in only two ugly appearence in newspapers succeeded to destroy actor's positive image (that he was building for years). PART 3:
What Ivana started in her story about adopting little American boy Tin when she told very bad things about self- supporting mothers, Goran finished last week. He said that if it will be proved that Lana is his daughter- one day when she groves up she is free to come visit him and talk to him, and that they can be in good relations if she groves up in a good-mannered creature. PART 4:
Ever since the name of Mirela Rupic one month ago appeared in the press, she and her family in Sibenik are living like under state of siege. Mirela almost doesn't go out of the appartment because reporters and photographs are siegeing the front door of the building where she lives with her parents. PART 5:
While we were talking to Mirela, her parents were feeding their little granddaughter and they were amuseing her. She is a cheerful girl with a big blue eyes and dark hair. And 13 years old Ivan, Mirela's son from the first marriage, was playing in another room during our interview. Later he joined us and as the real expert for technology , he helped his mum to solve some problems with computer. Looking at her children, Mirela is not hideing that she is proud of them and that she loves them. Later, when we were left alone and when I turned on a dictaphone (tapeing recorder), I saw pain and suffering on her face. Gloria: How did you feel when you read Goran's interview in the newspapers?
MR: It wouldn't be enough to say that I was deeply hurt and shocked. But after all those horrible lies and insults I found the strength to tell my self: Mirela, wait! You know very well that Goan could not look into your eyes and say those words that he said in that interview. And he cannot stand in front of the mirror, looking at himself, and repeat all that because he knows very well that those were notorious lies. PART 6:
Nobody ever hurt me in that way. I was reading that article and I couldn't stop crying. I asked myself: why did he have to do iz in that way. He could try to figure out some answers, but not to lie. PART 7:
G: Did all this stress reflect on your health?
MR: I lost 5 kilograms in a week because I hardly eat one doenut in a day. I'm not breast- feeding my daughter because I think that my milk is not a good food for a baby, considering what situation I'm going through. Aldo I look like I feel OK at the first sight, I'm very sensibile person and I'm affraid of the illness. Last year doctors diagnosed me 2 benign tumors, one under my arm and another on the left side of my chest. So I'm affraid that they could turn into malign because of the big stress. I had to make another control , but I didn't because in the meanwhile I got pregnant. But I'm always repeating to myself that this must not happen because my Lana has only me. And that is why I have to live. PART 8:
G: What opinion did you have about Goran before and what opinion do you have now?
MR: Goran is a good person, I know that. He attracted me because he was so simple, artless and warm. I'm not some 15 years old girl who is fascinated with someone's status or glory. I liked him because he stayed unchaged in spite everything that he had achieved. He was never stuck up or arrogant. There is an expression that money and power change people. I'm sure that they didn't change him. Today, after everything, I think the same. I know that circumstances in some way influx him. Those were not his words in that interview. I'm sure that somene else speaks instead of him. I don't want to make excuses for him now. From the very beginning I knew that he wants to stay in marriage. I swear that I never had a goal to ruin his marriage. That is not my goal now and it will never be. Although he hurt me dreadfully, I know that he is not a bad person. Those hard words that he said about me, I have allready forgiven him, but I will never forget them. I would only like if he could think for himself more in this situation, and not to be a marionet in the hands of the others. PART 9:
G: What did hurt you the most from the things that were said?
MR: Disgusting lies that I blackmailed him with taped conversations and that I was demanding from him to value does my silence cost 200 000 or 2 million Euros. And that I didn't tell him about my pregnancy until fifth month of pregnancy. It also hurted me his statment that Lana is free to go visit him one day when she grows up in a well- mannered creature. It also hurted me that he said that he never considered me like attractive woman. Although, those words say more about the person that said them because I can't imagine that someone has such low criterions for sharing his intimacy with anybody. If he was un-attractive man for me, he certainly wouldn't be a part of my life. PART 10:
G: Why dis you save Goran's voice messages?
MR: Those were messages on the machine of my mobile phone. They show that we had normal comunication all the time, from July 2006 till February this year, untill the conflicts that started after his wife left me messages at 7th of February. Goran was calling me all the time, approximately one call every week. We were talking about everything, what have happened on the TV set of ER and about strange feeling when he left the serial because till then he was getting up every morning at 6 o'clock. He was telling me about his plans with movie about Ante Gotovina, he agreed to act for free in that project. There were a plenty of nice conversations about the things that were happening to us. When he couldn't reach me, Goran would leave a voice message on my mobile phone telling me that he called me. I saved them just because I wanted to have something nice from him. PART 11:
G: And which conversation with Goran did you tape?
MR: Just the last one, when I realised that he is not going to recognise Lana. He insisted that I should deny in the medias that he is the father of child. Then he promissed to me that he will help me financially if I will keep quiet. And that maybe after few years he will admit that she is his. I insisted that he should recognise her presently, but he was against that. He said that that will destroy his life.He said to me:"If we will go to court and if we will kill each other in the newspapers, then I don't want to have anything with her (baby), do you understand me? And second thing- after few years, I don't know when, we will do this in a peacefull way, then I will be able to give her some attention. And if we will do it in this way, then I don't want to have anything with that. Because nobody can force me to go there, to spend some time with her or to see her". That was a difficult conversation that opened my eyes. But I never thought that I should blackmail him with that tape. I feel like he was blackmailing me. PART 12:
G: Were you suspicious that something will change "in a few years" and is that the reason why you insisted that Goran should recognise Lana immediately?
MR: Everyting else was just draging and I wanted identity for my child- the name of the father in a birth certificate. I was never greedy for money. I never wanted to ask anything else from Goran but alimony for our child. This is not divorce-suit and I don't have any right to demand his belongings PART 13:
G: Goran made a statment that- if Lana is his child, she was conceived in a one night adventure when he was drunk. Was he really drunk that night?
MR: That was not one night adventure and Goran and I were not drunk that night. Goran had 2 beers that night and I had 2 deciliters of wine (one glass). When we were together, Goran was never drunk. If we would go to a public place- and that wasn't very often- we would have one or two drinks and I can't tell that this is drunkenness in which would man can lose his memory. PART 14:
G: Was any of you using birth control?
MR: No. Sometimes it is difficult to find an answer on the question "Why not?". But I never regreted it because product of that unwairness is one beautiful little creature that I adore. PART 15:
G: When did your friendship became a romance?
MR: Our relationship became more than friendship in summer 2003. He was in Sibenik, staying for very short time, just a few days. We were with big company (friends) in Hacienda club in Vodice, but the two of us separeted from them and we were talking. We were not making out in a public place, but there was chemistry between us from the very beginning. I'm just a woman made of flesh and blood, and in that time I was free, I liked him and It happened... Since that time and untill last summer nothing happened between us. G: And when did it all start again?
MR: At the beginning of June last year. Whe didn't meet accidentaly. Goran called me on the phone and invited me to go out for a drink. It was Friday night, and I was really tired because I was working all day in marina. So I said that I can't go out. After 4 or 5 days he called me again and then we went out together. Goran was staying in Sibenik till the end of June (except he went to Egypt for few days). I would lie if I would say that we were going out every day, but it is also not true that we were together only one night. It happened more times. We were also going to the public places, match between Croatia and Brasil we watched together in one pizzeria. We were also spending time alone, just a two of us. PART 16:
G: And when did it all start again?
MR: At the beginning of June last year. Whe didn't meet accidentaly. Goran called me on the phone and invited me to go out for a drink. It was Friday night, and I was really tired because I was working all day in marina. So I said that I can't go out. After 4 or 5 days he called me again and then we went out together. Goran was staying in Sibenik till the end of June (except he went to Egypt for few days). I would lie if I would say that we were going out every day, but it is also not true that we were together only one night. It happened more times. We were also going to the public places, match between Croatia and Brasil we watched together in one pizzeria. We were also spending time alone, just a two of us. DID GV EVER PROMISSED U ANYTHING RELATED TO THE FUTURE OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP? No, nore did I expected him so. Subcounciously, maybe yes, but in real no. We realy had a nice time together, we developed mutual atraction combined with emotional understanding. But, both of us were aware of the situation. Qwestion of what will become of us or his marriage, we never brought up. DID HE EVER TOLD U THAT HE LOVED U? No. WHAT ABOUT YOUR OWN EMOTIONS, WERE U IN LOVE? I am un emotional person and I can't be intimate with a man with whom I don't feel wery close. I dont know if that could be called infatuation, but I surely wasn't indifferent. But, I repeat, I didn't wish to ruin his marriage cause I don't want to build my own happyness on somebodyelse's misfortune Were U feeling guilty because of un affaire with a married man? No. I am free ,without anyone to unswer qwestions about my behavior. Goran is the one with obligation and I think that he should have thought of his marriage. Anyway, if they split, it won't be my fault. I wish them all the best luck. DID GV CONFIDE IN U, 4 EXAMPLE HIS MARITAL PROBLEMS? After I have told him about being pregnant, he got scared about how it would reflect on his life and marriage. He knew that some day he should tell his wife, and he felt bad about it. We talked about that as friends. I said that it was not my intention to ruin his life nore his marriage, and he replyed: "If only she weren't from that family that she is from, everything would be different. WHILE IN THIS RELATIONSHIP, HOW DID U FEEL ABOUT HIS WIFE- AS UN RIVAL OR JUST SOMEONE SO FAR AWAY? In my mind, I refused to think about her. When did u realized that u were pregnant? BY THE END OF JULY, after my period missed, I did a home test. When it turned positive, I was shocked. Then I've sent SMS to Goran to call me. So he did and I told him I was pregnant. He was suprised, and replyed that we shall discusse it in person when he comes in Šibenik in a couple of days. (He was cruising on a yaht at The Adriatic sea with his wife and some friends). He came to Šibenik on July 28th or 29th, called me, and we went around 11AM on an old fortress Subicevac, to talk in peace. We talked inside the car, cause we din't want anyone to spot us. HOW DID GORAN RESPONDED AFTER U TOLD HIM? He was very kind and gentle to me, althougt it was obviously that it was very difficult to him. Even thou we discussed that too, Goran didn't asked me to terminate my pregnancy. I will never forget his sentence :"I'm afraid to speak a word in order not to say something wrong." He showed me so much humanity and suptility in himself, with that single sentence.He ended our conversation with: "We'll talk more over the phone." And really, when we spoke on the phone he said: "OK, now, what it is , it is. Let's move ahead" DID HE CALLED U BACK AFTER HIS RETURN TO US, OR DID U CALL HIM? He called me. If I wanted to hear from him, I would leave a voice message, and he would called back, same or next day. AsI had to stay at home, laying in bad, because of pregnancy complications, I was home alone on the New Years Eve. And G. called at 23.50 and we talked untill midnight. will never forget that so human gesture of his. Cause It was clear to me from the very beginning that he is in love with his wife (doubt that highly, but, whatever), and that we will never be together, inspite the child that was already on the way. But that call on New Years midnight, I saw as a human gentle stroke, to make me feel better at a difficult moment. WHEN DID HE TOLD HIS WIFE THAT HE'LL GET A BABY WITH U? He called on feb 7th and said that he told her everything and that she already forgave him. I replyed that I expected no more. Than he , for the first time asked me to not reveal anyone that he was the father. WHAT HAPPEN NEXT? I swiched off my cell, for it was 11PM. In the morning, there were 2 voice messages from his Wife. I almost collapsed, when I heard what she said to me. Such disgusting insults and vulgarity could rarly be heard. I was 8 months pregnant, I got sick and was rushed to the ER, ended on IV. WHY WAS YOUR PREGNANCY RISKY? I had to ly in bed 4 the whole pregnancy, ended up in hospital only 2 weeks after I knew I was pregnant, due to a bleeding, which scared me. I was so week and miserable that nigth, thinking that I just might loose my baby that nigth. G. called 12 (twelwe) times, cause he knew that there was complications in the meanwhile, but I couldn't answer. He called from skiing vacations when I lied in hospital bed for serclation operation. He was very warried, but also frightend, cause at the time he hadn't confess to his wife yet. I was 5 times hospitalized during pregnancy, and G. contacted with me all the time WERE U FRIGHTEND THAT THERE WON'T BE A BABY'S FATHER TO AWAIT U FROM THE MATERNETY WARD? While I was still pregnant and in hospital, it was so painfull to watch other men visiting there's pregnant partners. However strong, it hurts u inside so much. I remember in December night, while I was in the hospital, there was a movie "Long Dark Night" (by Antun Vrdoljak, Ivana Višnjic's father as a director- Dr Mom), with G, in the main role. It was Sunday evening, and no one in the room noticed that I was crying. I shread a whole lots of tears, during pregnancy, and later. Last 2 months of my pregnancy tears would just run down my cheaks, when ever I heard a song "An Angel Inside You", (by (Croatian singer Gibonny- a song that tells about a father who refuses to recognise a child)- cause I recognised G. atittude not to admitt his child in it, but I have also find a strenght to endure, knowing that I'm the only suport in life my baby-girl has. Ther, biological mother of baby Tin had a perfect conditions while giving birth with desired Bob Marley music, and I was searching for strenght in, (very sad Croatian pop-song; Transl.), that "An Angel Inside You" song. That's life. AFTER GIVING BIRTH TO LANA, WHEN DID U SPOKE TO GV AGAIN? We spoke the day before, and he also called on March 22nd, - day after Lana was born. But I could'n answer, so he just left a voice mail, and called again on 24., and that day he heard 4 the 1. time from me that we got a baby girl. There's no conditions 4 long converations in maternity ward, but I gazed in Lana as we spoke, and tried to decribe him what she looked like. She was 3550 grams /51 cm, had a long dark hair, and nurses did her hairstyle every morning. I was sorry that I couldn't have sent him a picture, cause his American network don't alow MMS. WHAT WILL U SAY TO GV NEXT TIME U SEE HIM, EVEN IF IT WAS IN COURT? What ever I have to say, it won't be harsh. He is the father of my child, and if I said anything bad about him , that would be as spitting on myself. I can't imagine saying ugly, nasty things about someone I've been intimate with. Whatever bad he ever said about be, I won't return in the same tone.
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Post by crazzy11 on Jul 20, 2007 10:45:56 GMT 10
A croatian girl entered the AEB site and informed that this magazine has pictures of baby Lana - and : SHE IS THE SPIT IMAGE OF GV. I asked them to post the pictures, so let's see.
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Post by Ali (lubylover912) on Jul 20, 2007 14:27:46 GMT 10
wow. im kinda surprised she was this nice about everything. i think i would have been using a few choice words to describe him...
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Post by daniella on Jul 20, 2007 14:34:45 GMT 10
I read the interview and I can say it's sad and I fell pity of her, but ( my opinion... I don't want fights or discussion... ) I can't think that this is true the story I mean )...
I know, she made a interview, but some aspects seems to me, I don't know... strange...
"If we will go to court and if we will kill each other in the newspapers, then I don't want to have anything with her (baby), do you understand me? And second thing- after few years, I don't know when, we will do this in a peacefull way, then I will be able to give her some attention. And if we will do it in this way, then I don't want to have anything with that. Because nobody can force me to go there, to spend some time with her or to see her".
I can't say that he didn't said that things, but I think this is all a set up... Goran would have been contradicting himself because (that I read on Bleu Profond ) an article that he would't want to ask for custody and yes, he said that if the supposed daughter ( Lana ) wanted, she could look for him and they would talk, but ( as MR said in another part of the interview ) he didn't said mannered creature ...
Other thing is that she was atracted to Goran ( I'm not saying that it wasn't a mistake of him, because we all know that it was ) and knew that he was married and didn't care ? Come on... I won't say anithing about this ( my opinion may lead to another horrible discussion on the forum )...
Like I said, let's wait and see what will happen...
Dani
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Post by debz1616 on Jul 20, 2007 18:18:04 GMT 10
There is going to be alot of he said-she said. BUT please remember this is a very difficult time it is all concerned and at the end of the day it has absolutely nothing to do with us. Please can we show support and respect for everyone epsecially for the childrens sake. Lana Tin debz
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