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Post by silverbells on Nov 8, 2007 5:24:04 GMT 10
moretti ex wife tells him she's remarrying in this episode. i feel split up and two and hoping that abby's, thinks something has happen during her blackout.then i go back to my other thought that they did something it's frustrating.
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Post by lyvanna on Nov 8, 2007 5:44:42 GMT 10
Whatever they do I hope they make it believable because at this moment I'm still struggling over the idea of Abby relapsing so quickly. Actually the whole thing reminds me of the story she told Ames in Murmurs Of The Heart last season, about getting really drunk and waking up in some guy's place and not knowing where she was and running out - then she told him things get so much better. I won't complain too much until I see it and we know what happened, but to me it sounds more like a tired ratings grabber than proper character development.
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Post by andrejia on Nov 8, 2007 6:51:28 GMT 10
development? more like regression. whatever this is, it leaves the viewers with the feeling that this can happen again anytime. and I guess with alcoholic they pretty much nailed it, because "once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic". i pretty much have to give them credit for this.
although, in terms of the story...i feel bad for Luka (again!!!) that he's going to live his life from now on having this constant fear that she'll do it again, no matter the reason. he's going to walk on thin ice forever. and that's not a nice thought.
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Post by lyvanna on Nov 8, 2007 7:16:55 GMT 10
Watching 'A Thousand Cranes' today Maggie said something which reminded me of this, she's in the car talking to Carter about Abby and Maggie is saying how Abby is an amazing person but that Carter can't want to change her and she says about her own struggle with smoking and drinking and how she defeated one but not the other but '(unconvinced) maybe Abby will have more luck with that'.
I accept and even credit the writers for keeping this aspect of Abby's character, I just wonder at it coming up now, and with her apparently sleeping with Moretti - I guess I just want her, Luka and Joe to be happy - perhaps we've been spoilt over the last few seasons! The problem is that this season is going to be the last word.
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Post by Christabelle on Nov 8, 2007 8:38:15 GMT 10
Maybe Moretti cheated on his ex-wife...? just guesing...! because we know Abby's excuse for her behaviour, but what is his..?
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Post by Jill on Nov 8, 2007 8:51:05 GMT 10
development? more like regression. whatever this is, it leaves the viewers with the feeling that this can happen again anytime. and I guess with alcoholic they pretty much nailed it, because "once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic". i pretty much have to give them credit for this. although, in terms of the story...i feel bad for Luka (again!!!) that he's going to live his life from now on having this constant fear that she'll do it again, no matter the reason. he's going to walk on thin ice forever. and that's not a nice thought. Amen to that. That's the feeling I get too. She's done this before as she told Ames and it looks she does it again. So the writers have left me with the feeling that whenever she's under pressure she will slip right back into her old habits and give into temptation. I agree, I feel bad for Luka too. He can never go anywhere for very long without fearing what could happen. I also dislike that all the progress Luka and Abby have made in season 12 & 13 has been evaporated. And it seems like I'm finding myself taking more of Luka's side in this mess (especially after tomorrow night) which I really don't like. And Zabel says that he is complicating there happiness for a period of time- but I don't know how much happiness Luka can have knowing his wife slept with another man. This story makes me crazy.
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Post by larue on Nov 8, 2007 8:54:24 GMT 10
Hasn't anyone else gotten the idea that Moretti has had the hots for her since day one? I resisted saying anything about it because of all the sniping that generally makes the rounds about EVERYbody having a crush on ABBY. I have thought there was an attraction since his first little remark about having to get used to working with a chief she isn't sleeping with. She wasn't sleeping with Kerry and Weaver was a chief a lot longer than Luka was. He had to make some reference to her sex life. He was trying to spill his guts to her in the last epi as well as making assertion to her 'wanting to listen to people' persona. Falling in bed with her?? I am not surprised that he would do it. I am heartbroken that she would come to the place where it COULD happen. That's MY beef with the story line.
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Post by hinkydoodle on Nov 8, 2007 9:19:35 GMT 10
Maybe Moretti cheated on his ex-wife...? just guesing...! because we know Abby's excuse for her behaviour, but what is his..? Being drunk makes it okay that Abby cheats? So what was Luka's excuse in season nine when he slept with a married woman? He wasn't drunk, he was at work and they had sex in a closet. I guess he's as much of a creep as Moretti. And I don't think Moretti forces Abby to drink anything. no one knows she's an alcoholic when they all go to Ike's do they? My guess is her smile at the bar is just part of her flirting and drinking with her boss.
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Post by Christabelle on Nov 8, 2007 10:49:14 GMT 10
Maybe Moretti cheated on his ex-wife...? just guesing...! because we know Abby's excuse for her behavior, but what is his..? Being drunk makes it okay that Abby cheats? So what was Luka's excuse in season nine when he slept with a married woman? He wasn't drunk, he was at work and they had sex in a closet. I guess he's as much of a creep as Moretti. And I don't think Moretti forces Abby to drink anything. no one knows she's an alcoholic when they all go to Ike's do they? My guess is her smile at the bar is just part of her flirting and drinking with her boss. I was merely saying that if Abby, god for bid cheats on Luka, it's because of her drinking, she would hurt him intentionally. and i was kidding about Moretti cheating on his wife, justed wanting to find a reason as to why he would do this, as so far its not in his character.
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Post by cloudy on Nov 8, 2007 11:09:30 GMT 10
Maybe Moretti cheated on his ex-wife...? just guesing...! because we know Abby's excuse for her behaviour, but what is his..? Being drunk makes it okay that Abby cheats? So what was Luka's excuse in season nine when he slept with a married woman? He wasn't drunk, he was at work and they had sex in a closet. I guess he's as much of a creep as Moretti. And I don't think Moretti forces Abby to drink anything. no one knows she's an alcoholic when they all go to Ike's do they? My guess is her smile at the bar is just part of her flirting and drinking with her boss. Not to go off topic, but I think Luka actually sleeps with two married women. I remember there was an episode where he wakes up in a room with some women, looks out the window, then looks at her before he leaves like he can't believe what he's actually doing. To me I took it as that women's husband is the one that confronts him in another episode or the same one..... actually in that same episode is when he sleeps with the UTI mom in the closet. !! I just remembered. The epy is "Walk like a man". I guess my whole point was that he may have been drunk when sleeping with that married woman in the beginning of the epy. We don't know.
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Post by hinkydoodle on Nov 8, 2007 12:22:08 GMT 10
I thought that woman in the bed was Chuny.
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Post by cloudy on Nov 8, 2007 12:23:42 GMT 10
I thought that woman in the bed was Chuny. Hahaha.... I don't think that's Chuny cuz it didn't look like her, but I guess I never thought of it. I know he slept with her after the UTI mom.
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Post by manduu ♥ on Nov 8, 2007 23:43:22 GMT 10
I think Abbys love for Luka is stronger than alcohol.. If that doesnt help she is screwed... But again it can be looooooots of alcohol..
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Post by annita on Nov 9, 2007 0:41:23 GMT 10
I'm hoping TPTB simply want Abby to believe that in her blackout she could have slept w/ Moretti. Carrying the guilt of thinking she may have is enough to keep an alcoholic drinking ... it's a vicious cycle. IMO, we are going to come to know that she didn't. I really think TPTB will address the issue of relapse and that it did occur, but won't focus that part of a relapse is the constant fear of infidelity.
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Post by PiperxoxLeo on Nov 10, 2007 4:32:47 GMT 10
Please continuing disccusing this episode here. Molly
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