Luby Relationship opinion

[stormechaser]

I have had some time to think about this (and the Bucks are up against Michigan 24/14 at half time, so I have a few minutes...)But, it has been speculated by a certain fan of Carter 4 ever who shall remain nameless at TEE that there is no closeness or bond b/t Luby. She sites the fact of the hand holding with enough room to put another adult in. However, as convuluted as she seems to see things-as if Carter was even a factor in this relationship-this poster points out something that caught my eye.

Taking Luka's history of marrying very young and presumably to a woman who was used to galant (sp?) treatment, he would be inclined to almost "smother" the woman in his life.

Some points to ponder are these:
During Luby v. 1, nearly everytime we see them walking he has his arm around her shoulder holding her close. There are exceptions, yes, but look closely especially during the Bishop episode.

During the Sam fiasco, the same can be said. He smothers her in this way and is quick to try and form an instant family. He pushes all his feelings down so he can construct the "perfect" ready made family. It blows up in his face.

Now, in both these instances he was trying to wrap a bow on a pretty package of how a woman wants to be treated. Sam and Abby have had hard knock lives and have never relied on a man to protect them. His insistance of "taking care of them" didn't fly.

This brings us to Luby v. 2.

Firstly, yeah, they do it out of an emotional connection related to a $hitty day at work. So what. I'd do him for lesser reasons... ;D

Anyway.....

In AACE, Abby points out how well the last few weeks have gone. How much she has laughed and how good she has felt. All points she HAS NEVER made with anyone including Carter. She herself said she doesn't have follow through skills.

Luka tells her its her decision about the baby. And, that he still wants to be with her regardless. This shows growth and IMO, the fact that he loves Abby despite any problems they have-including the termination of a baby he so desperately wanted. Remeber how he melted down when Sam thought she might be pregnant? This is hugely different. Luka isn't trying to force Abby into a pretty mold of a family. I think he is finally learning.

Okay, this brings me to the handholding debate. I believe what we are seeing is intimacy at its finest. Ripping your clothes off passion is great-but it doesn't make for long lasting loving relationships. We have seen them twice now with hands held. I don't think that at this point we need to see them in bed in order to believe they are in love. The small details are more telling. It is a connection to the other person. The fact that Abby didn't pull away is a key moment. It tells us that she has put aside her irritation with him.

Well, that is my long winded explanation of why I think they are in it for the long haul.

Okay, Michigan just scored and then intercepted , so I have to go back to the party and finish watching the game.


GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rach :)]

oh wow i can see wgere you are coming from there

[Luci]

"Firstly, yeah, they do it out of an emotional connection related to a $hitty day at work. So what. I'd do him for lesser reasons... ;D"


haha Stormechaser you are so funny!!!!
and yes you're right about everything you wrote.....

[Cornflake Girl]

Just because there was a gap between them when they were holding hands dosn't mean there was no closness. I love the way Luka insinctivly reached his hand out searching for Abbys, knowing it would be there waiting for him, and he did all that without looking over at her, it was so natural as if they do it all the time, that to me demonstrates how close they are.

Stormchaser, I definatly agree with all you have said, Luka has come a long way, he wants this to work so much you can see that, but he isn't 'trying' so hard to make it work like he did in the past or with Sam, because he dosn't have to, it just works by itself, it dosn't need to be forced, because they belong together.

[strawberriesnsugar]

One thing I really love about Luby this time round is the fact that their relationship started pretty much the same way as before, sleeping together out of pain, high emotions, etc. But, whereas last time they then just seemed to fall into that pattern, and not communicate, this time round you can really see the difference. It shows how much closer they are, and how much they have grown as people.

And yeah, I agree, I think Sam and Luka was mostly just about Luka trying to be in, and happy to be in, a ready made family - he has strong nuturing instincts for children, and desperately wants more of his own, I think. And now he does!

[larue]

I had pointed out in a WAY earlier post somewhere that Carter always seemed to do the little caring things - like holding her hand or brushing her hair aside - that Luka seemed to not know about. Your post points that out clearly. My heart absolutely melted when he reached for her hand and held it as they walked away. It was a real telling point as to how far their relationship has evolved. As for the space between them....it was a camera shot, people! Had they been any closer we would not have been able to see the reaching out and grasping part. Sigh. It was nice but I hope that we are going to get a 'groping rolling around in bed' bit during the Christmas montage. LOL

[daniella]

Well, I agree... and ïll let my thoughts here...

Firstly, Luka is with her because le loves her... he pointed that was her choice to have or not this baby, as you said Stormchaser... and now she can't have ( naturelly I mean... they can still adopt ) anymore children, he sill loves her... prove is when she asked if only child is enough for them and he says that they only need one...

Secondly, I can't say that Carter is a right guy, because he oficially broke up with her by a letter... okay, they're relationship was strangled, but what kind of a guy goes to another continent and send a letter to tell he isn't coming back ? Come on... it's a childish atitude... and when he came back to Chicago, he is with a pregnant girlfriend and act like nothing happenend between he and Abby ( i saw this episode yesterday...)

And third, Carter is better with Lewis ( in my point of view... and i can't see her with Chuck... ) than with Abby ( who by the way loves Luka...)

Dani

[lyvanna]

Was going to post a new thread on this, but then thought it fitted in with this one.

Why do people think that Luby works over Carby? I thought (from the very start, even S7) that there is a completely different way that Carter and Luka treat Abby. Carter wants to 'save' and 'fix' Abby, while Luka seems more happy to accept her as she is, not saying that Luka doesn't want to help Abby, but his help is more to do with offering her money, saving her from attackers etc. In S7+ Abby probably needs the kind of attention that Carter gives her, perhaps she does need 'saving' a bit and that emotional support (which Luka sometimes does, and sometimes doesn’t give her, possibly to do with her going from one to the other to talk about her problems, and with Luka having problems of his own), but ultimately it doesn't turn into a very fulfilling relationship as how far can the ‘fixing’ go before she starts to feel like he’s not happy with her at all.