The truth will out 14.16

[thekovacfamily]

I only saw the part with luby , but it broke my heart , especially the part when luka said he was moving out ...... and abby's face

[Andrea]

that´s all i want... the luby scenes!

[rorygilmore]

Thanks to lockhartislove at YouTube, Luka an Abby's 1st scene in this ep:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZigObsa_I

Rmeinder: ONLY links to download full episodes can't be posted.

[sissa]

the last scene is on her page

www.youtube.com/user/lockhartislove

sad, sad, sad

[Maryesa]

I've just seen the episode and I'm kind of shock now. As for me I think she told him everything, and that the reason he's so upset, I don't think that anything else but the truth happened in Croatia.

I didn't imagine that Luka will be so pissed of. the last scene was terrible because he's as unhappy as her about his decision. it's so unfair how TPTB messed up with their story...

I don't know what we can expect now, but my little heart is totally broken right now...I FEEL SO SAD FOR THEM

[luby2534]

Nooooooo!!!

Have not seen the episode yet just watched those two clips . My heart is in pieces.

Just starting to download the episode now, had to work all day and had no access to the internet today as the system has been down for upgrades. Boo Hoo !!!

[sissa]

Seems they are just back from Croatia and those 2 weeks there were miserable for them both.

A happy marriage for just 6 days. Sad.

[hockeystar02004]

can someone upload the epi because I want to watch my favorite part of the epi, "Thirteen kids are you out of your fricken mind"

well next week looks just like the epi from season 3 when carol is suck in the store, such a good epi. I miss the old seasons with the orginal cast

[Mrs. Zebra (aka Roosje)]

I'm probably going to watch the episode tomorrow.. but it's hard for me to catch up, as I haven't seen any episode since 13x19. Could anyone PM me with the major events having happened between Abbs and Luka? Please?

I have seen the last scene, so sad!

[manduu ♥]

I'm sorry but,

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!?!

Did I really just sit here and waste 41 minutes of my day only to wait for that tiny luby minute in the end?!?!!?!?!
It wasn't even a minute!!!!!!!!!

Arrrrrr I'm so mad, I've been looking forward to this since last week and I've had guests over today& I wanted them to leave so badly to watch the episode but it wasn't worthhhhh anything!!!!

Still hate the new doctor, I really liked Neela in this episode, 13 FREAKING KIDS? Poor woman!
Where was Luby? No idea

I don't know why, but I just got this very cold feeling about Luka, like I hate him or something& want him gone.
He is so annoying for me right now, he is messing everything up!!!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I'M TO MAD TO WRITE!!!
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Stupid Zabeeeeeeeeel I HATE YOOOOOOOOOU!!!!!!!!
I'm off to watch scrubs now, hopefully it will be worth seeing, not like this timewasting episode!!

[loopyallie]

Don't get me wrong, i like Luka... I think he is basically a wimp by not able to sit down with Abby, sort thisthrough instead he is running away from the problems... He is still naive about Abby's disease "Alcoholism" Abby needs support from Luka for her problems, he did leave her and not kept in touch... (My partner was 4000 miles away, we kept in touch several times a day!)

I admire Abby for putting her hands up and admit the things she has done. It takes a lot of balls to do a thing like that...

[zelda]

Manda, baby, take a big breath and listen to me.

WE ALL KNOW THAT TPTB WOULD MORE OR LESS SCREW UP ABBY
's AND LUKA's STORYLINE because of the lack of time.

ABBY has hurt Luka like never before, she is a married woman,a mom, and what she did was unbearable.

In the past, LUKA has always been here for Abby. ( with Brian for example, and they had broken up, but he couldn't accept Abby being mugged ) , and TPTB has taken two seasons to show us that she is THE ONE.

I don't think the drinking was the worst thing... it was that she could jeopardize JOE's life and just this is UNBEARABLE for LUKA.

I LOVED LUKA's anger, his answers in monosyllables, he was trying so much to control himself.


I am sorry, MANDA, but when she started talking to him with a kinda normal voice at the beginning, about how it was difficult for her, that she was ready to do anything, she STILL doesn't FEEL how much he is devastated and MAD AT HER.


This distance between them is REALLY moving:

She apologized, said again how much she was sorry , but I can't help thinking that she is like a little girl after screwing up big time, who is expecting life to move on...

AND NO, LUKA can't forgive like that.
If he did, some nice soul on another board would have written that once again he was Abby's doormat like in season 12 or 13!

Go and read some posts on other boards...especially in season 12 when posters were getting annoyed because it was ALL ABOUT ABBY, with LUKA following like a nice little puppy, treating her as a porcelaine vase because she was pregnant!


My fave passage was with Walter. Hal HOLBROOK was wonderful, and LUKA opened up and spoke about his father's death.

WALTER reminds me of Bishop STEWART ( season 7) who helped him break down about the horrible times in VUKOVAR, for the first time, and said he was taking some of Luka's guilt and burden with him, when he died.


I so hope that WALTER will help LUKA make a choice, deal with a completely NEW LIFE with ABBY and JOE, without lies, with the only purpose to find happiness with his family and learn to trust this woman he LOVES SO OBVIOUSLY .


I am scared as hell that if GORAN has only one episode to go, the " reunion" will be scamped and not realistic at all.

AND FINALLY, I didn't care about the other characters. ( sorry but "la BAMBA" on the roof was NOT ROMANTIC at all. Gates and Sam can start orgies everywhere in the hospital, I'll start painting my toes!)

I was too involved with these ridiculous 5 seconds of LUKA and ABBY TOGETHER.

TPTB owe us a real conversation between them, without any barriers, or any lies.

NO SECRETS, NO LIES like in one of the best ER episodes ever.

Here we need that this man could show his angst and his fear of the future.
Here we need that the woman who obviously loves shim, feels concerned with HIS FEELINGS :

- About his Dad dying

- About his fragility because LUKA is so good at being guilty.

- About the fact that even if this is crual, he NEEDS TO MOVE OUT, not to hurt and punish her, but to have time to HEAL and forgive.


TPTB DON'T SCREW UP A STORY YOU MADE 7 YEARS TO BUILD.

SPEAKING TO YOU ZABEL...

BUT RESPECT US ENOUGH TO NOT WRITE ANY SUPERFICIAL AND RIDICULOUS ENDING.

ONE LAST THING:
Kudos to Maura and Goran:
It's the first time their body langage had negative vibrations!

About 2 actors whose physical connection has been THE ONLY EVIDENT THING between them even when they were having so little time onscreen together ! ( season 10 and 11).
Here the body language was violent and aggressive, and the actors amazed me!


I really NEED to HEAR a real CONVERSATION, WHATEVER IT IS, between this man and this woman who thought they had done the hardest part in their relationship.

Even though I have no idea at all about the ending if Goran doesn't come to wrap up the LUBY story.

BUT DON'T DARE DESPISE THE VIEWERS WHO HAVE LOVED THE LUKA-ABBY relationship, AS YOU USED TO WRITE IT SO BEAUTIFULLY ....NOT SO LONG AGO!
GOT IT , ZABEL We are a very determined, trained and athletic gang....No kidding!

LAST WORD GOES TO JANET COBURN : it sums up everything!

"YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT".











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[Christabelle]

I liked the scenes with Luka and the patient in the hospice but i think i would have rather have had scene more of Luka and Abby....

[jen]

Wow, I cannot believe that someone here said that LUKA is the one who is messing things up! No offense, but that's just mind boggling to me.

I am happy that Luka is getting pissed off. Sometimes I think the uber Abby fans out there just expect that he should forgive her straight away and thank Jesus H. Roman that he is even allowed to be in her presence. That is so unrealistic and I would lose all respect for him if he did. He should be angry and upset. She broke his heart. Obviously Luka had his part to play but Abby has really screwed up and now she's just got to deal w/ the consequences. And to be fair I think she is handling things as best she can at this point. I have faith that he will forgive her in the end but he has every right to make her sweat it out till then.

I didn't see this episode(watched LOST instead. And it was awesome!). It doesn't sound like it was all that interesting. I hope Abby laid the smack down on Sam like the previews suggested she might. I can't stand that bitch.

[rorygilmore]

Little Amy: Yup, I’m totally with you about that cold feeling about Luka and I can summarize it in one basic argument:

I’m sick of him being the eternal moaning sufferer. Not that Abby isn’t one but he is crowning himself like the main one right now and I’m SICK of it. “My wife died , my kids died . I had/Have personal issues , I ran away to America ; had it with every girl until I found myself and then if something wrong happened, I went to Congo to have malaria and then I dared to think about going back again! Yay! I didn't say anything to Sam because I can’t open myself to anyone , I suffer even more because I’ll almost lost my premature Mongo:-[, and because I was kidnapped and my father died and my new wife cheated on me and the walls are haunted…)

In a mood of a Luka butt kick? Yeah, I’ll queue BUT (EYE EYE!: He is blameless!) totally blaming TPTB and Abby "The doormat player". Of course! We must understand the situation and blah, blah, blah, right?

Yes, we must because Luka is and will be the eternal man in agony; since that’s what the writers want…Let's spank the writers.

I’m sure everyone is tired of Luka’s melodrama and also of Drama-Drunk Queen Abby…but of course we are all positive about them having finally, a not-very-melodramatic-tear-filled-boogies-everywhere-goodbye-Abby ending.

I totally agree with Zelda and Jen when they say that he can’t forgive her straight away, that would be totally ABSURD considering the “gravity” of the problem: Alcoholic wife, jeopardizing her son while sleeping with the boss…and I’m AFRAID that if Goran has only one episode left: That is what is going to happen.

They are going to rush things:

“Abby I can’t live without you!” (Luka runs to her, he slips but doesn’t fall.)
“Me neither Luka, let’s have an orgy on the roof.”

But it's too late, clothes are already falling onto the ground.

The end.

Geez, I’m going to hate it so much if it ends that way…unless we are all allowed to have a glimpse of Luka’s torso…better him than Mc Ego’s...

I’m really curious to know what kind of influence Walter is going to have on “The sufferer”. How strong that influence is going to be? Would he be able to help Luka build a happy ending with Abby Rum-heart?

Oh yes pleeeease, Walter! Luka needs to be happy, Rory begs you. I don’t want to see Luka crying anymore. Rory is TIRED about it. Rory wants that huge, attractive, orgasmic smile appearing on that 100 MILLION DOLLAR FACE.

Tried to be sarcastic during the 1st part of my post to start a debate, I’m sure many want to squash me right now. Do it with pride and pleasure.