Abby leaves Luka?

[lulu]

Does anyone know what episode Abby and Luka split up before? Like in Season 9 (i think) Where she got fed up and just walked away from him down the street?

Any help would be appreciated
Abi*Lulu

[loopyallie]

Episode 8.2 The Longer You Stay

[lulu]

Thanks

Abi*Lulu

[loopyallie]

You are very welcome!

[abigailangel]

Abby didn't leave Luka , he followed her. They had a disagreement about her talking to Carter on the phone outside a bar and her smoking and hom being childish and ignoring her and she went off in a huff with him following. They had a few cross words walking to the El and I think Luka actually says he wants to break up with her not the other way round.

[Praline]

A lot of people read this scene differently, but here is my opinion on the matter.

Abby was the one who initiated the conversation and while there is no denying that they both said quite a few harsh words, I believe Luka's behaviour was childish and the things he said were really harsh. But that is what happenes when you don't talk.
I believe that it was Abby who walked away from Luka, Luka told her that "Carter can have you" and she walked away from him, he went to say something but then didn't.

[abigailangel]

I agree that Abby walked away but I'm sure that Luka said he'd had enough before that so I'd count him as the person who broke the relationship. Although it was already very crumbled by then anyhow.

I remember Luka being particularly horrible in what he said. I think he told Abby she wasn't pretty enough to fight over (with Carter being the implication)

I am a little biased though as I've always been more of an Abby fan than Luka fan.

[larue]

Actually I read somewhere that both actors were very upset with that particular scene and tried to get the dialog changed. They thought it was a sudden onslaught that was way too harsh and out of character for their characters. Apparently TPTB didn't agree and the scene was played as written. Kind of interesting to note that actors don't always get their way. I remember being devastated an totally surprised when it happened.

[viviclooney]

As I was reading this topic I was trying to remember what happened in this scene, so I search for recaps of some particular scenes related to Abby and Luka´s break up (thanks to google) and I found this:

The breakup : Scene 1

Abby leans against a parked car, sucking on a taboo cigarette. She answers her ringing phone. "Having fun? Are you out having a good time?" Carter guilts her. "No, not exactly," Abby groans. Brought to you by Hertz. Carter sunnily tells her he's setting the broken wrist of an "LSDiva," blaming his disastrous return to the ER on Abby's insistence that he speak to Weaver about the Attending position. "I got sucked into the ER vortex," he finishes, annoyed. Abby smiles. "I didn't tell you to talk to her tonight!" she says. They clear up whether or not she administered GENT (she didn't), and then she gripes that Luka dragged her to a bar -- just as Luka wanders up behind her. That's three times in two episodes; Abby should really get that foot-in-mouth disease treated. "So much for quitting," he says under his breath. Abby rolls her eyes. "Hey," she high-schools nonchalantly. Simultaneously, Carter and Luka both realize that the geometry of their love lives is once again complete.

The breakup : Scene 2

Abby gloomily tells Carter that she needs to hang up, then does so without saying goodbye and turns to face Luka. Ladies and gentlemen, the faceoff begins. "Ready to go?" she asks. "If you want," shrugs Luka. "Yeah, I want," Abby snaps. Luka blinks. "Fine," he mutters. "What, now you're mad?" Abby gripes, because Little Miss Cranky-Pants wants sole ownership of this thunder. Luka goes inside to pay the bill while she finishes her cigarette. She stares after him, annoyed, then throws her smoke on the ground because his mood has taken all the joy out of tar.

The breakup : Scene 3

Abby storms back into the bar, where she sees Luka chatting in sotto voce Croatian. "I'm taking a cab," she announces. Luka asks where she went, to which Abby frostily replies that she has been waiting outside for him to settle the tab. "I thought you were coming back in!" he protests. She storms out and steams outside until Luka joins her. "That guy's father was diagnosed with prostate cancer last month. He was asking [about] treatment," Luka explains, softly. Abby lies that it's okay for him to go back in there and play doctor, but Luka insists the conversation is over. "Luka, you forgot your credit card," Julie calls from the bar's open door. Her dulcet tones tense every muscle in Abby's face. Julie flirts that the last two drinks are on the house as a goodwill attempt to turn him into a regular. Abby's muscles move from tense to twitching. "Nice meeting you," Julie calls to Abby, who hisses, "Yeah," and bolts.
Luka chases her. "Could you be a little bit more rude?" he scolds. "Could you be a little bit more friendly?" she snaps. "I'm glad one of us is," Luka retorts, walking a bit behind her. Abby brats that he should just go back inside the bar and cure cancer for the UN, and he can damn well take back his letter jacket because she is so not going to the prom with him.

The breakup : Scene 4

Luka has followed Abby onto the El Train, which is slowing to a halt at her stop. "I was trying to have fun, is that a crime?" Luka asks, desperately. "No, go have fun," Abby fumes. "I can be left waiting out in the street by myself, [and] I can walk home by myself." They're booking it down the platform now, Luka still chasing behind his prickly girlfriend. "Why do you have to make a big problem out of everything, like you have an insect in your anus?" Luka sputters. Abby is in no mood for cute slang slip-ups. "'Bug up my ass,' Luka," she corrects, haughtily. "Bug up my ass. If you're gonna insult me, you can at least get the words right." Offended, Luka spits, "Fine. How's this: stop being such a bitch." Ooooh! Fifteen-love. "Okay, fine, as soon as you grow up!" Aaaaah! A tied score. "Right, you're so mature, Abby!" yells Luka. "You don't even know what you want!" Abby obtusely sneers that she does, indeed, know what she wants, and that is to go home. "You play games like the schoolgirl who can have any boy and treats all of them like crap!" Luka volleys. Abby spins and smashes back, "Why don't you just call me a whore and get it over with!" One point to her. "I'm tired of it," Luka says. "You're not that pretty. You're not that special." Wow. He comes back with an ace. That is incredibly cold, and although Abby's irritating immaturity to this point has riled me, I'm ashamed of Luka for stooping to her playground pettiness. Except, on another level, daaaaaaamn! Abby whirls around and stares at him in disbelief, then smiles coldly and spits, "I'm pretty enough in the dark, though, aren't I?" Tied game. I wonder if it was hard for Maura Tierney to be in this scene, in which her looks come under fire. Certainly the words came out of Luka's anger, but a writer had to craft a phrase that has basis in reality, and that's what he or she decided to type. And it's believable. Ouch. "You're never happy," Luka complains. "I don't think you're capable of being happy." She scoffs, but he forges ahead and insists that when she isn't depressed or ashamed, she's just angry. "And you're married to a ghost!" shouts Abby, spinning around again and silently daring Luka to keep chasing her after that sliver of cold truth. He pauses. "At least I treat you with respect," he says quietly. Abby has already recommenced speed-walking. "Oh, I know, you're a saint, Luka," she tosses over her shoulder. I have to give her the edge in this one, even though they're both right in a lot of ways. I still don't think Luka needed to match her bad mood and malice, and I feel for Abby because he childishly tried to scotch their dinner plans and then ignored her at the bar. But they do both make valid points, although I'm not sure I buy Luka's infatuation with his dead wife, given his profound feelings for Carol Hathaway.

The breakup : Scene 5

Abby's pace is really blazing now. "I've been patient," Luka argues. "Right, I know, you're so good and I'm so bad," she childishly retorts. "I put up with a lot, Abby," he continues, as she further brats, "I'm such a mess, and you're so understanding." This has devolved into eighth-grade banter. "I'm sick of it!" he explodes. "Ugh, and I'm such a burden!" Abby mocks. "Why don't you just break up with me?" Luka shakes his head and suggests that she's gunning for exactly that. It occurs to me that Abby's behavior in the bar, her run-for-Carter attitude, and her childish petulance are her way of trying to hurt him first, so that when he inevitably wakes up and wants to dump her, she can convince herself it won't ache. I'm sure that's been observed, but it's new insight for me and I'm happy with it. That fact also makes her more sympathetic to me, because that kind of crippling insecurity is painful. "If I'm such a horrible person, how could you possibly want to be with me?" she shouts, throwing up her arms. "I don't know how to be with you!" he cries. "I don't know how to help you!" Abby rants that she doesn't want help, or pity, or a savior. "Okay," Luka says, stopping. "I give up." Abby cocks her head. "What does that mean?" she asks. When he doesn't answer immediately, she irritatedly repeats, "What does that mean, what does that mean?" Luka screams, "I'm done! I'm done! Carter can have you!" Game, set, and match to the Croatian sensation. Abby and Luka stop walking and stare at each other. For some reason, Abby is genuinely startled that he called her bluff. "Okay," she finally breathes, awkwardly touching her hair. "Okay." She walks away. Luka starts to follow, but is too drained, and lets her leave.

The breakup (not a Luby1 scene): Scene 6

At home, Abby absently brushes her teeth, spits, and flicks off the bathroom light. Hopping into bed, she exhales for what might be the first time in two hours and leans her head back disconsolately.

Hope it helped with your doubts.

By the way the recaps are not mine, there are from Heather at www.televisionwithoutpity.com

[MLTierney_fanatic]

I always see it as it was Luka who was the one to actualy finish this time 'I'm done, Carter can have you'. Yes Abby was pissed off with how Luka was acting but they both knew it wasn't working, Abby is happy with the out come but in a later episode Abby is asked out my a patient 'You have a boyfriend?', 'Kind off, sort off, I don't know' (along those lines lol) she can't be talking about her & Carter coz he doesn't know they've split at that point.

[chief8abug]

abigailangel said:

I agree that Abby walked away but I'm sure that Luka said he'd had enough before that so I'd count him as the person who broke the relationship. Although it was already very crumbled by then anyhow.

I remember Luka being particularly horrible in what he said. I think he told Abby she wasn't pretty enough to fight over (with Carter being the implication)

I am a little biased though as I've always been more of an Abby fan than Luka fan.

How was Luca supposed to act?

He falls in love with a woman who makes him feel like a fifth wheel and then he's supposed to lie down and play doormat for every stinky, little whim she has. No. She made him feel like crap. He had every right to blow up.

[carrie]

I think they both had some harsh words for each other. Tempers just got out of control.

I personally found Abby's comment of, "And you're married to a ghost" far harsher than anything Luka said. I'd much rather have someone tell me I'm not that pretty than have them throw the fact that my spouse died in my face. We know how hard that was for Luka, and I just thought it was a really low blow.

Then again, I'm more of a Luka fan than an Abby fan so I'm biased as well.

[sammiejm]

I think that both Luka and Abby were too scared to actually say what they felt. They didn't really talk about how they felt about each other, Abby because she couldn't bear the thought of actually needing someone, and Luka because he was too scared of having his feelings thrown back in his face if Abby didn't feel the same.

In my opinion, Luka's "You're not that pretty, you're not that special", although extremely harsh, was a spur of the moment comment because he was hurt by the fact that Abby had feelings for Carter. He couldn't tell her how he really felt, we know Luka is not good at talking about himself or his feelings, so subconsciously he wanted to hurt Abby as much as she was hurting him. Although I don't think that can have hurt anywhere near as much as Abby's "You're married to a ghost."

[strawberriesnsugar]

Yeah... they were both waaaaaay harsh (I think), and it was kinda random, just one big fight. But I agree with who ever said it was kinda crumbling before.

But y'know... all the clips of the break up are on thedancewedo.com... so you can see what you think.

B xxx

[carsley]

It was so saaad, when they had a fight!

- YOU'R STILL MARRID TO YOU'R WIFE!