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Post by larue on Oct 25, 2006 7:32:26 GMT 10
From Daisy via AEB
Luka fires Kerry because he has to make cuts, it's all about the money.
Abby knew Luka had to cut someone, but Luka never told her it was going to be Kerry.
She says he needs to fight for her.
Luka says he did, but he has to make some though decisions, it's his job.
Abby asks why he didn't tell her, Luka says it's nto her concern.
Abby's pissed, says that's his new mantra lately (not being her concer).
Luka asks what that means, Abby replies that Kerry's one of the best doctors on the floor.
Luka says she's also one of the most expensives, too.
Did I say Abby is pissed?
Morris tells Sam that Alex has stolen his credit cards and is hving stuff shipped to Sam's house.
Sam doesn't believe him.
Later Haleh and Sam talk about Kerry, Haleh confirms it's about the money, and adds that Kerry knows the place better than anyone.
Kerry's pissed because the hospital buying robotic equipment, but can't afford her.
She looks for Luka, he's runninga trauma with Abby. Vernon is the patient and he has chronic pancreatitis from gallstones. Ouch!
Abby and Luka clashes over the diagnosis, she wants some procedure she once saw Kerry doing.
When Kerry finds Luka in the trauma room she pulls a Gabe Lawrance and does some procedure nobody has ever seen or done or heard. At least it looks that way, but you know this Daisy knows nothing about Medicine, kids!
Kerry to Luka: "I still go ten tricks in my pocket, doctor".
Luka (genuine) to Kerry: "Surgery should be thanking you when they get down here".
When Kerry leaves, Abby gives Luka a look.
Kerry to Luka: "You know I'm right".
Meg's pissed Gates moved on.
She goes to the ER with Sarah and makes a scene.
Gates' pissed at her. Says she didn't come just because of booze.
Meg says they're family, but Gates isn't buying it, says it's his work, he works there, what she just did isn't family.
Meg says he has been avoiding her, what he wants her to do?
Gates to Meg: "Move on".
Meg asks if Gates doesn't love her anymore, he says he doesn't love her the way she wants.
Meg says she'll change.
Gates says it's not about it, either.
Meg asks if he rather be with.... and this Daisy is too much of a lady to repeat the words Meg uses to talk about Neela. Just think Deadwood, not ER.
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stormechaser
Lady of Luby
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Post by stormechaser on Oct 25, 2006 8:32:49 GMT 10
Wow! Epi 11 spoilers already. That's half the season, folks.
I am sure Luby bashers will jump on this saying that this is fodder for Luby's demise. I, however, think this is still the making for a nervous breakdown for Luka. If he can't confide to anyone and let all this pent up stuff out-he is gonna blow.
TPTB have invested too much into these two to tear them apart again. I see a good amount of angst coming that is all about Luka instead of Abby and the baby.
It should be interesting. (I still hate it when they fight, though!!)
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Post by larue on Oct 25, 2006 8:48:47 GMT 10
Hee hee, stormchaser.....I suggested the possibility of a nervous breakdown for Luka a while ago. I am glad to see others picking up the same vibes. The man has been through SO much.....watching him try to keep it all in when he was showing Abby the phone video of the baby in 'Bloodline' was a good indicator as to how close to the edge he really is. Goran is going to absolutely SHINE this season!
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Post by Melimelo on Oct 25, 2006 9:55:08 GMT 10
So Kerry saved Luka's ass..with the Clemente thingy ....but he isn't gonna save hers?? Doesn't sound like we are gonna have a happy christmas
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Post by crazylubyfan on Oct 25, 2006 12:28:12 GMT 10
i hope abby and luka will still be going strong!! i believe they wiill! luby will stay together!
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Post by ac on Oct 25, 2006 12:46:40 GMT 10
So Kerry saved Luka's ass..with the Clemente thingy ....but he isn't gonna save hers?? To be fair, it was Kerry's fault his ass was ever on the line in the first place. It's a bit like throwing someone under the bus, saving them at the last second, and then expecting them to thank you for your kindness. From the spoilers, it's apparent Luka wasn't aware of what exactly happened between Kerry and the hospital board anyway. It seems he didn't have any clue that there was talk of firing him until this episode. ETA: If Luka is headed for a breakdown, my only hope is that we get to see Abby looking outside herself and supporting him through it. There would be great potential for character growth on her part if they go down that road ... not to mention an indicator of the strength of their relationship.
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stormechaser
Lady of Luby
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Post by stormechaser on Oct 25, 2006 13:10:49 GMT 10
I feel exactly the same way about the Kerry/Situation....Kerry didn't do anyone any favors. While I generally like her, she has a history of looking out for number 1. IMO, if she wasn't close with Abby and the situation wasn't going on with Joe, she'd have helped hold the door open for Luka as he left County General for good.
This was one of the few examples that Kerry gave a darn about someone other than herself or her career.
I find it kinda odd, though, that they could find it in the budget to hire Morris back-and keep Pratt on-as attendings and then fire Kerry. This should be good to watch.
I think what we are seeing with Luka is him trying to keep business and personal lives seperate. As his gf, Abby isn't privy to all his exucutive decisions at the ER. She has to realize that.
It's hard to be critical of the best charecters on ER, but I am not a fan of this spoiler as it points to a bit of trouble for our Luby. I am hoping they "edit" this one down as has been TPTB's history so far this season.
I agree with this. It's time for her to abandon the caretaker role and learn to be the supportive partner. I look forward to this as well.
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Post by ac on Oct 25, 2006 13:40:26 GMT 10
It's hard to be critical of the best charecters on ER, but I am not a fan of this spoiler as it points to a bit of trouble for our Luby. I am hoping they "edit" this one down as has been TPTB's history so far this season. I think what's going on in this episode is just a reflection of the much bigger issue of Luka not having told Abby about the Ames situation. I'd bet money that's the "Breach of Trust" the title refers to. Abby herself refers to Luka's mantra that things "don't concern" her. She obviously knows something's up with him, but for some inexplicable reason he's not sharing his concerns. I know we only have limited spoilers for the Ames storyline, but I find it positively ludicrous that Luka would choose not to tell Abby that a bitter man may be stalking them and their son. I mean beyond the obvious issue of trust ... it makes no sense from a security standpoint. Isn't that the kind of thing she should be aware of when she's out alone with Joe? What about the babysitter? It's just stupid, IMO, and it makes Luka appear that way too (which is probably why it pisses me off so much). Personally, I think Abby has every right to be furious with him over this. I just hope they don't dwell on that for too long.
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Post by larue on Oct 25, 2006 13:57:50 GMT 10
Not letting Abby know what is happening with Ames is stupid....but, in a way, very caring of Luka. She is finally happy in her life. Why would he want to risk ruining that for her?? He obviously thinks he is protecting her.....which could be the whole crux of a breakdown for him. That he COULDN"T protect her...anymore than he could his first family. For a man who thrives on guilt, not being able to keep another family safe might be the thing that tips him over the edge. I am not saying that Ames would be sucessful in hurting Abby or Joe, but making Luka think that he COULD would be enough IMP.
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Post by larue on Oct 25, 2006 20:57:27 GMT 10
Not letting Abby know what is happening with Ames is stupid....but, in a way, very caring of Luka. She is finally happy in her life. Why would he want to risk ruining that for her?? He obviously thinks he is protecting her.....which could be the whole crux of a breakdown for him. That he COULDN"T protect her...anymore than he could his first family. For a man who thrives on guilt, not being able to keep another family safe might be the thing that tips him over the edge. I am not saying that Ames would be sucessful in hurting Abby or Joe, but making Luka think that he COULD would be enough IMP. WOOOoooooo....wait a minute. Now that I think about it, they already did the breadown thing with Clemente. NOT a good idea with Luka. Don't want HIS name on a bad physician's list any where. Hmm...am going to have to rethink this.
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Post by mrseyre on Oct 26, 2006 1:09:01 GMT 10
Ames is off the scene by now; if Abby hasn't an idea what Luka has been holding back about it must mean that Ames never made a move against her or Joe - at least that she knew about.
Luka has, I think, being trying to shield her from the anxiety and fear of the situation and has thereby made it worse and set up this situation which is ripe for misunderstanding and suspicion. But, given Zabel's remarks about them being a couple to root for, I don't think this marks the beginning of the end.
Kerry - you hired Clemente, you insisted that he be kept around. You didn't take any fall that wasn't yours to take.
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Post by openyoureyes on Oct 26, 2006 1:19:37 GMT 10
I can see Zabel throwing in some angst , how else to keep us coming back for more make up scenes and we all know ER loves angst and Maura does it so well.
I am disappointed that Luka has been trying to shield her from all of the Ames stuff. He knows he has a communication problem , but I was hoping he would be trying to work it out.
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Post by ac on Oct 26, 2006 5:24:21 GMT 10
Not letting Abby know what is happening with Ames is stupid....but, in a way, very caring of Luka. She is finally happy in her life. Why would he want to risk ruining that for her?? I have no doubt that Luka thinks he's protecting Abby by keeping her in the dark, but wouldn't Abby have a much bigger source of unhappiness if something happened to Joe under her watch because she was unaware of the danger? Luka is making a highly emotional decision in not telling her and is very clearly not thinking things through. I think Abby is much more likely to look at the practical implications of his secrecy and will therefore be justifiably upset. Mrs. E is right that while Luka may have good intentions, in the end he's just making the situation worse. I don't think it will be the beginning of the end for them either. I just hope it's not some cheap excuse to have Abby drowning her sorrows with her long lost father.
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Post by zelda on Oct 26, 2006 6:32:07 GMT 10
Mrs E., are you sure Ames is off the screen? The spoilers are so superficial, we don't know how his storyline 's gonna end. It's frustrating... I can't help thinking that Ames must have a great responsability for Luka's strange behaviour, he sure DID something important and hurtful to Luka.... or I don't understand why he got such a strong storyline during 5 eppys. I can't imagine a man like Luka, who has always been a decent and friendly guy with his colleagues,FIRING Kerry. I remember how sensitive he was when Kerry broke up with her girlfriend,( sorry I have a blank about her name). He was the only one to show his concern for her feelings. It's so much NOT " Lukaish" to fire a friend and colleague he respects and has known for 7 years. I'm not saying anything about his breaking down, it's possible, but Luka can't sack Kerry....even though there are cutbacks in the ER budget. I hate this spoiler! (hope as usual that nothing as out of proportion as this, will happen.
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Post by <3 LubyII <3 on Oct 26, 2006 6:33:37 GMT 10
Thanks for the new spoiler info!
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