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Post by Luci on Mar 11, 2008 12:33:46 GMT 10
i'll never give up on them...
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Post by larue on Mar 11, 2008 12:42:34 GMT 10
It breaks my heart that Zabel's comments would bring me to this point. I have been a die hard fan for 14 seasons. I used to bottle feed my fourteen year old through episodes of ER. I have agonized over the past few seasons. I have kick started my own creative efforts via 14 very different fan fictions. I have reviewed the show and recapped the show on several different sites. I am grateful for the friends I have made here...and there. I am still....and always will be....a Maura Tierney fan. I am just not willing to go through all I have done in support of the show to have Luby fizzle out in the manner described by Zabel. But not to worry though They aren't going to miss a peon fan like me. I don't even fit their targetted audience. 'ER' will roll on.....
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Post by hockeystar02004 on Mar 11, 2008 13:32:53 GMT 10
now whats going to happen when carter comes back, I think abby will open up to john about what she did with kevin but will she open up to Luka, and how will he react?
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Post by Jill on Mar 11, 2008 14:22:26 GMT 10
So is Maura staying? It sounds like she is. I'm confused.
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Post by Christabelle on Mar 11, 2008 20:27:48 GMT 10
and how is it that two characters can get to you so much? All these problems in the world and my only concern is how will Luka and Abby end and it's killing me!! lol me too!! please guys just don't freak out, they said its NOT tragic, well splitting them up WOULD be tragic don't you think?they're a family,they have a kid..they went through soo much together!! also killing one of the WOULD be tragic too...so I am remaining positive but if they do decide split them up, i can't believe am saying this but i would rather something tragic happen. The thought of them not together kills me. I just wish Goran would come back. I know he wants to concentrate on other projects and not to be stereo typed as an actor but realisticly, i think there will only be one more season of ER, so what is one more year on the show for him. At least then we would all have peace of mind.
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Post by mrseyre on Mar 11, 2008 20:27:56 GMT 10
I'm not trying to be funny, but I'm not really sure where all this hand wringing is coming from. I honestly can't see enough of substance in what Zabel has said to warrant the reaction I'm seeing. Did anyone really expect anything unambiguous from him at this stage of the game?
The relationship might fizzle, it might not, but I don't see how the inferrence that it will is being drawn, nor how it is somehow now a given that MT has re-upped for S15.
If MT stays and Abby and Carter end up with Joe I shan't care because I shan't be watching. No GV no fun.
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Post by lyvanna on Mar 11, 2008 20:34:03 GMT 10
I'm suspicious of the phrasing of 'wrapping up his storyline with Abby'. But then he does say 'they'. Hmm.
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Post by andrejia on Mar 11, 2008 20:55:14 GMT 10
Just one little problem here: for one ridiculous feeling that my team has to win, has to be right and all that so I'll be p***ed if the above happens. Because what's the fun in winning if you can't make the others at least a bit sad (I'm such a great person, right?). Honestly, if they split, c'est la vie! I would be extremely disappointed because nothing has hooked me like this story.
Oh, and if Abby really ends up with Carter I'd be ashamed with myself that I loved a show very poorly written.
ETA: As for Zabel & Co and all their statements, GV said about the wedding episode that they'll go through a 'little hell' before getting married. Reading that, speculation would've ran wild...what I've seen wasn;t a bit close to hell.
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Post by mrseyre on Mar 11, 2008 20:55:45 GMT 10
The "with" could just as easily refer to the story being wrapped up with her rather than the story with her being wrapped up.
And I know it's not impossible but it would be perverse to have the two most tortured characters on the show find some sort of peace with each other only to blow them out of the water. I know TPTB think that MT can walk on water but do they honestly think watching her deal with her abandonment issues (if Luka walkss) again has any real attraction? Or watching her deal with bereavement (if a piano falls on Luka) has much allure?
Carter and Abby? Mopey/grief-sricken and King Smug of the Smug People? Joy.
I know what you mean about wanting to be on the winning team - but just think - they would have had to drag Abby through the mud and either kill Luka or banish him for "Carby II, Just When You Thought It Was Safe To GO Back Onto The Wards" to happen.
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Post by andrejia on Mar 11, 2008 21:17:24 GMT 10
Well yes, but it seems that beggars can't be choosers and any carby reunion will do. I mean, only the ffiction about 'it's only Luka's fault that I lost my soulmate!!!' says a lot. And the one where Luka hooks up with Neela and her and Abby are pregnant at the same time...Abby with Carter's spawn, of course...and..and...the list could go on and this is too off topic...even for me!
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Post by lyvanna on Mar 11, 2008 21:38:43 GMT 10
We have to hope TPTB see it differently, I mean Carter and Abby have been apart for over 4 years in which time they've both married and had children with other people, other than the realm of fanfiction and fanwebsites there has been no talk of them getting back together - especially not on the show where we don't even know if they've talked for 2 1/2 years. That said I suppose we did get Carol and Doug reuniting even after he left her to raise their children on her own... I just think that most of our fear of a Carby reunion is down to fandom rather than canon.
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Post by larue on Mar 11, 2008 22:33:30 GMT 10
I have no fear of a Carby reunion. I actually liked them together when they were caring about one another. But their characters stopped caring and so did I. I DO have a total nonchalance for watching Luby struggle - and basically losing one another - again. It's not the bed hopping, hot sex scenes that MT and GV are so good at either. If I wanted to watch that kind of crap all the time, I'd be a fan of Grey's. No....I am going to miss the connections like New Year's Eve dancing in 'If Not Now'....the 'do I call you chief now' conversation from 'I Do'....the frog tossing playfulness from 'Parenthood'....and the heart wrenching reunion hug from 'Coming Home'. Now, all I can see coming are two people who belong together...trying to make a life together...and always wondering....not really connecting....and 'wrapping things up.' As a long time fan, I wanted - and DESERVED - something more than that. Doug and Carol's ending may have been schmaltzy but it left my heart singing. I was hoping - naw...EXPECTING - with the same with Abby and Luka. Maura Tierney takes my breath away watching her act her chops through this tough stuff....but with no appealing end in sight, I have no desire to see her do it with Abby any more.
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Post by applejak on Mar 11, 2008 23:04:51 GMT 10
a carby reunion? i doubt it. plus zabel said it won't be a tragic end
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Post by Maryesa on Mar 12, 2008 6:16:05 GMT 10
Seriously I CANNOT imagine a Carby 2,it will be totally ridiculous First Carter is supposed to be married to Kem. and after all they've been through, great and bad things, they can not set Luby appart.
Can you imagine a second Carter playing with baby Joe in Luby appartment ?? argh...
I personnally hope that MT is leaving at the end of season 14, even if there is no sunset scene, we can still hope that they're gonna end happy. If she stays one more year alone...crap crap and double crap (sorry for that)
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Post by zelda on Mar 12, 2008 8:08:37 GMT 10
CARBY ? Totally nightmarish, playing UNCLE JOHNNY with JOE. I thought that I hated MORETTI with a passion, but the RETURN OF THE CARTER makes me lose my legendary self control! Seriously, I can't believe it for a second. Did you remember how he reacted when Pratt told him that Abby and Luka were having a baby ? He didn't bat an eye.... Come back, mr MILLIONAIRE. Open the JOSHUA CARTER CENTER , have a quick drink with your friends, and give loads of dosh to help the COOK COUNTY. And just dash to shoot the 10TH EPISODE OF THE LIBRARIAN.
When I think that I used to love Young Puppy Carter until season 6... I'm on the warpath with ZABEL " wrapping up " his Luby ending with a minimum of coherence. ITA with Maryesa: merde, merde et remerde!
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