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Post by mrseyre on Nov 12, 2007 9:32:28 GMT 10
What, you really think that Abby's drunken ramblings about Luka (such as they were) are meant to be taken by the audience as a fair representation of the facts? That what we saw was really supposed to make Luka look bad, rather than presenting a sordid, drunken, catastrophic mistake on Abby's part that made both her and Moretti look horrible? That those scenes would actually be percieved by the majority of the audience as reflecting badly on the absent husband who is caring for a sick father? OK then. This storyline has anything but the absent husband who is caring for a sick father, is the husband who does not back when he is asked , who does not called back when he is needed , who was suposed to be back week ago and he is not and who sort of deserves abby"s cheating. Abby was anything but inconsious to know what she was doing she flirted looking revenge until she gor what he wanted. Luka needs something to be more than a guy without any sort of character who begs in his knees to a woman who does not deserves it . But why would Abby want to go to him if she knew he doesn't want anything to do with herTo try to get back with him does not it?. I think she will go off screen to come back with Joe. Didn't come back and explained why; called for three hours while his wife was passed out on the sofa and then lied to him about turning off the phone. I don't understand why you interpret this as making him look bad. If he looks bad to you then that's your interpretation, I don't believe that this is what the writers intend. And I am totally baffled by any suggestion that Luka deserved what Abby did. The characters who come out of this looking horrible are Moretti and Abby, and her reaction when she came to her senses showed that she rather agrees I think. You haven't seen how the scene in "300 Patients" plays out and presumably won't because you aren't watching the show any more. In fact you don't need to watch because as far as I can tell you've got the whole thing played out already.
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Post by Carito on Nov 12, 2007 10:12:32 GMT 10
Anyway What i will never undestand is how MT allowed herself to play the higher risk perfomance in this storyline , there were thounsands of ways to make the point TPTB wanted and they choose the worst way ever. NOW iven for the hardest luby is gonna be very difficult to see Luka and Abby intimate without have the flashback of A-M.If we ever see a hot scene between them again.
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Post by babyway on Nov 12, 2007 10:47:54 GMT 10
Anyway What i will never undestand is how MT allowed herself to play the higher risk perfomance in this storyline , there were thounsands of ways to make the point TPTB wanted and they choose the worst way ever. NOW iven for the hardest luby is gonna be very difficult to see Luka and Abby intimate without have the flashback of A-M.If we ever see a hot scene between them again. I think this is Luka's decision! IF she tells him, she may even NOT tell him about Moretti and try to just forget it, than I see No reason for Luka to break up with her - If she is so disgusted ( to me it looked like she was horrified of what she did) of what she did, she may want to forget it and never tell Luka. Only tell him about the drinking problem.
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Post by scarlette on Nov 12, 2007 10:49:57 GMT 10
What i will never understand is how MT allowed herself to play the higher risk performance in this storyline
Perhaps because . . . that's her job? We don't know what choices she was given. But, even if she had control over the whole shebang, why wouldn't she choose to play the more challenging role? I think it's a bit silly to blame the actress (who did a phenomenal job, IMO) because you don't like the storyline.
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Post by andrejia on Nov 12, 2007 11:04:13 GMT 10
I still stand strong on my position; I guess that she has to tell him. Keeping a secret like that would only make it worse, even if she stays sober forever and ever and ever...and...Isn't this one of the steps to recovery? And again, her drinking isn't enough, IMO for him to be so devastated. Sure, he's had a lot to deal with in a short period of time but Luka has been taking this very light.
As for Abby going back only to take Joe or whatever Carito said (I'm sorry, it appears my English isn't really that good because I find it difficult to understand all that rambling - guess what! there's a little magic button on the right of "post reply" that says "SPELL CHECK". Might want to use it, if you keep insisting to post)...she has never been someone who chases a guy around. If Luka was to tell her it's over, my bet would be that she, as heartbroken as she would be, would only hope for a repair, not pleading nor going uninvited to a foreign country.
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Post by Carito on Nov 12, 2007 11:12:19 GMT 10
I think it's a bit silly to blame the actress (who did a phenomenal job, IMO) because you don't like the storyline.
Maybe but i think no matter how phenomenal was Maura's job she should have pondered the consequences of this specific arc in her character.
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Post by babyway on Nov 12, 2007 11:25:25 GMT 10
I still stand strong on my position; I guess that she has to tell him. Keeping a secret like that would only make it worse, even if she stays sober forever and ever and ever...and...Isn't this one of the steps to recovery? And again, her drinking isn't enough, IMO for him to be so devastated. Sure, he's had a lot to deal with in a short period of time but Luka has been taking this very light. As for Abby going back only to take Joe or whatever Carito said (I'm sorry, it appears my English isn't really that good because I find it difficult to understand all that rambling - guess what! there's a little magic button on the right of "post reply" that says "SPELL CHECK". Might want to use it, if you keep insisting to post)...she has never been someone who chases a guy around. If Luka was to tell her it's over, my bet would be that she, as heartbroken as she would be, would only hope for a repair, not pleading nor going uninvited to a foreign country. Not to mention that beeing an alcohoolic she would be in deeper pain and cleaning herself up would be the last thing on her mind.
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Post by scarlette on Nov 12, 2007 11:27:36 GMT 10
I'll say again, we don't know what choices the actress did, or didn't have in the writing of the storyline.
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Post by andrejia on Nov 12, 2007 11:36:35 GMT 10
how about this? MT gives a rat's ass about the character, the development or regression. She finds it interesting. If I remember correctly, she said something about Abby being a mess or something like that when it comes to relationships. I;m not saying she doesn't like Abby, she was and still is Abby for 8 (?) years, but it's about her job, what she loves to do. And playing happy and giddy is boring. She has to show her skills and range of emotions.So...if she was given the choice to play happy Abby dancing on a beach next to Luka and Joe or what might be Emmy-worth disfunctional character what do you think she'll choose? If it was me, I'd go as low as the writers would let me.
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Post by larue on Nov 12, 2007 12:45:40 GMT 10
Oh hee hee....my thoughts EXACTLY. I can imagine she is having a rather high time with this material and loving every minute. Since her job on ER is to provide us with drama....drama it shall be no matter how much we want them to do the happy fluff stuff. I may be sick to my stomach and having a hard time thinking about other things at the moment but I have to admit, she is a wonderful actress. And yeah....I really need to get a life away from ER. Wonder if I can join her in detox?
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Post by viviclooney on Nov 12, 2007 14:00:53 GMT 10
And yeah....I really need to get a life away from ER. Wonder if I can join her in detox? I guess I have to second that!!! All the steps!!!
But first, let's join DRUNK ABBY into the party!!!
**Viviana**
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Post by larue on Nov 12, 2007 20:06:57 GMT 10
Does Kevin Moretti have to be there too?? He is such a party pooper.....
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Post by andrejia on Nov 12, 2007 21:26:17 GMT 10
I don't mind him coming as long as he leaves the fur from his chest at home...or puts it on his head
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Post by Carito on Nov 12, 2007 22:20:46 GMT 10
how about this? MT gives a rat's ass about the character, the development or regression. She finds it interesting. If I remember correctly, she said something about Abby being a mess or something like that when it comes to relationships. I;m not saying she doesn't like Abby, she was and still is Abby for 8 (?) years, but it's about her job, what she loves to do. And playing happy and giddy is boring. She has to show her skills and range of emotions.So...if she was given the choice to play happy Abby dancing on a beach next to Luka and Joe or what might be Emmy-worth disfunctional character what do you think she'll choose? If it was me, I'd go as low as the writers would let me. Despite the fact ER is not in the emmy radar aymore and right now for Abby there is no time to redention , there is no way to make this storyline a bit more believably and there is no way to make this not look as the final destruction of a storyline already bad told. Believe me that is horrible to feel that way about a story i used to love.i watch my old lubby videos of s7 and all i wanna do is cry
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Post by andrejia on Nov 13, 2007 1:17:39 GMT 10
Since being mean is like a second nature to me, I just gotta ask you: still having trouble finding that "hidden" button that says spell check, aren't you?
And you're such a "lubby" if you watch their season 7 affair because you can't take this storyline anymore.My dear, season 7 is far worse than this.Luka was emotionally cheated then, after he did the same thing to Abby. But have fun watching that!
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