MizzAuzzie
Countess of Luby
Luka [heart] Abby forever
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Post by MizzAuzzie on May 3, 2007 18:18:52 GMT 10
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Post by larue on May 3, 2007 19:48:41 GMT 10
No one here ever said it was illegal to like him. Some of us have even admitted to being a Carby at one point or another. Watching TNT 's reshowing of Season 8 again has even put me back in Luby therapy  ....but this site is devoted to Abby and Luka. We will NOT trash Noah Wyle - or his fans - here....nor do we feel the need to. But there are numerous web sites devoted to Noah and/or the Abby and Carter relationship. If you want to discuss Noah/Carby in depth then I would suggest you check out 'Coffee and Pie' or something similar. We will play nice on OUR playground but don't try to start anything.  As for my therapy, the 'doctor' has ordered multiple viewings of tonight's epi to firmly excise those recurring Carby nightmares. Cake anyone? |
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Post by PiperxoxLeo on May 3, 2007 23:27:04 GMT 10
I was a Carby supporter for a very long time. Just after Abby broke up with Luka I got into Carby. I shipped it for a while but we knew that relationship was never going to work.
And Noah Wyle is handsome, I have always preferred Goran. I think it's because he's foreign.
But yeah, so you can like Noah. It's no crime but this is an Abby and Luka forum so you are likely to come across Carby-Haters!
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Post by Rach :) on May 4, 2007 1:58:28 GMT 10
i have t say im not a carby fan but i like Noah and i do like Carter iv always said i liked Carter not as much as Luka but i do kinda like him but as the others have said this is a luby forum!
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MizzAuzzie
Countess of Luby
Luka [heart] Abby forever
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Post by MizzAuzzie on May 4, 2007 23:56:09 GMT 10
I prefer Noah to Goran only by a little tiny bit- they're very hot guys! I'm sure they'll love to hear that, maybe not some much from a teenage girl.
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Post by larue on Jul 31, 2007 20:58:36 GMT 10
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Post by annita on Aug 1, 2007 4:01:03 GMT 10
Nice to see dads being attentive to their little ones. Dad and son are both adorable.
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Post by larue on Aug 1, 2007 12:38:34 GMT 10
There is another pic of Noah and his curly haired daughter but I lost it before I could post it. Dang. Will look again tomorrow if I have time.
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Post by viviclooney on Aug 3, 2007 0:53:13 GMT 10
I always liked Carter, especially in the earlier seasons, he was so cute and nice... oh OLD CARTER DAYS. We've seen him grow on ER and has been an excellent character on the show.
However, as all the Carby Fans thought (I became a Carby in that time but in Season 12 I became a Luby AGAIN...), the romance between Abby and Carter would had been amazing because their incredible friendship in Season 7, unfortunately the actors tried very hard to make us believe there was chemistry but the truth is that MT and GV have better chemistry playing Abby and Luka and they showed us their excellent chemistry on Seasons 12 and 13. (Please I'm not implying anything with this opinion, don't take it wrong darlings...)
Anyway, physically Noah Wyle has its charm and that childish look in his eyes with is very attractive. However, from Season 9 until he left I didn't see him as attractive as he used to appear to me in the earlier seasons of ER. I don't think age has helped him, but I hope he will get back his attractiveness later.
**Viviana**
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werty
Countess of Luby
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Post by werty on Aug 3, 2007 20:10:50 GMT 10
Aww i love noah
hes so cute with his puppy dog face
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Post by larue on Aug 3, 2007 21:55:55 GMT 10
Personally, I think Maura has the ability to have 'chemistry' with anyone. Gads...someone that could be so appealing with JIM CARREY (Liar, Liar) for cripes sake has a ding dang GIFT!!
It was the 'character' of John Carter evolved into something that I found distasteful. I loved the bumbling, eager med student. His good bye to Benton was one of my all time favorite scenes for those two characters. I even liked him with Abby - in the beginning. I thought he would be able to make her happy....and that's what I wanted to see more than anything - Abby's happiness. When did it go downhill?? IMHO I think in the episode where she attended the charity thing with him and pointed out to him that he was a reverse snob....wearing the cheap watch and driving a cheap car. SHE was the one that reminded him that HE held the reins to the future of the Carter Foundation and could turn it in any direction he wanted. From that point on it was downhill. It was almost as if he began to embrace power or something. He was a snob from that point on. His reactions to things were constrained and disappointing. How about his very last ER patient - the little girl with the broken wrist, who turned out to be a baby he delivered as an intern? The Carter I was fond of - would have had a different reaction, I'd think. I will hold him in my affection because he used a bit of his millions to pay off Abby's school debts but if he never graces the show again, I won't miss him. Noah is a so-so actor. If I happened on something he was acting in, I would watch it but he is not someone I would actively seek out. He may have hit his prime in 'ER'. Clooney, on the other hand.......sigh.
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Post by maggie on Aug 4, 2007 17:54:37 GMT 10
I've spent a few hours deconstructing the Carby relationship simply because for someone interested in psychology, it's a fascinating dynamic. It's a very unhealthy relationship in a number of aspects - for example, the entire conversation with Maggie and then the non-proposal after Abby mentioned that she didn't think a person really ever changed. It went along with his constant attempts to get her to quit drinking. He wasn't happy with her as she was - he wanted her to change to fit his expectations of what she should (or could) be. Additionally, the circumstances under which they started a relationship were incredibly dubious. Abby was in a self-destructive place in which she was clearly unhappy - and as the saying goes, "You can't love another if you don't love yourself." She was also drinking again, which was indicitive of her repressing feelings that she didn't want to deal with. And the actual setting of starting the relationship (Lockdown) was a high-emotion, high-intensity, scary time in which neither were likely thinking completely clearly. Abby was obviously afraid ("The worst is over, right?" and "Tell me we're going to be okay.") and what do we need when we're afraid but comfort. Carter was hung up on something that had continually eluded him, and that which we can't have tends to always seem more enticing. The whole thing was incredibly dysfunctional and I'm doubtful that they ever genuinely loved one another.
I could continue to psychoanalyze, but my fingers are tired of typing and I'd start getting into the biochemistry of intimacy, which is just a pain to get into.
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Post by larue on Aug 4, 2007 21:48:32 GMT 10
Ah.....were we analyzing the relationship?? My thoughts were regarding the Carter character. What is you take on the change he - personally - went through? What made hiim different from the character that captured so many hearts in the beginning??
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Post by maggie on Aug 5, 2007 15:18:07 GMT 10
Ah.....were we analyzing the relationship?? My thoughts were regarding the Carter character. What is you take on the change he - personally - went through? What made hiim different from the character that captured so many hearts in the beginning?? I think the writers wanted to transition him from goofy resident to sage attending and it sort of ended up coming off more pompous than anything. I'm not entirely sure they planned on him becoming such a jerk. Noah Wyle has a knack for playing the semi-haughty and not so sensitive guy (The Californians, Pirates of Silicon Valley, even a bit in The Librarian). It may have been how he delivered the lines in the beginning of their "aging process" and it sort of took off from there. Not to say Wyle's a bad guy - not at all, a friend of mine was his waitress once and he was quite pleasant. I'm just saying it's his acting style. Like how Maura's got a biting sarcasm that comes through in many of her roles, and how Matt Perry has a quirky nervousness in most of his roles. It may have just played to his stregnths. |
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Post by larue on Aug 5, 2007 21:14:15 GMT 10
I think the writers wanted to transition him from goofy resident to sage attending and it sort of ended up coming off more pompous than anything. This is what I was thinking....exactly. Thank you! I love how they have created an Abby that recognizes it as well. I was watching the episode that begins with Carter watching the earth movers at the site of his new hospital wing and Abby approaches. She asks if he "is surveying his kingdom." I like their conversations but just want them to stay away from one another romantically. That's when the willies start. Eeew. |
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