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Post by maggie on Jul 16, 2007 6:14:20 GMT 10
Ok, I won't post anything without a back up link anymore! But I felt it was ok, since this is what's known of her in Croatia. And Mirella's staement posted after that seems to back that up "she has only nice things to say about Goran, but things turn when it comes to Ivana" Well someone once called me a slut...does that make me a slut because it was a rumor? I think not. I'm about as un-slutty as they come. Also, there was a rumor flying around school that I'd overdosed on drugs and died. Most of the school bought it. But seeing as I had simply transferred schools, somehow even a popular rumor lacks credibility.
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Post by Rach :) on Jul 16, 2007 6:32:22 GMT 10
I'd overdosed on drugs and died. oh my god you took an overdose and died lol im kidding on!!
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Post by daniella on Jul 16, 2007 10:49:58 GMT 10
Well, since Maggie talked about rumors... my father makes cakes here in São Paulo and now some peolpe says he is dead, and the rumos ( that was said last year ) took some big proportions and have poeple asking about him till this year... the last people to ask were a couple, last month...
Dani
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Post by lovely22 on Jul 16, 2007 11:45:16 GMT 10
Yeah, I agree about the whole "statements with no representation". I wish we could just find out who said those things about Ivana, but I guess she is famous and people probably just hate her because she's pretty and married to Goran. If we find a real, legitimate source that said all the stuff about her, then I guess, I will judge, but not now. It's not fair, and I feel bad...I'll try and find out more about her, but there's nothing about her before Goran, so I guess that's that...
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Post by crazzy11 on Jul 16, 2007 12:34:01 GMT 10
Ok, don't get me wrong, but pretty and famous isn't an excuse. I mean if that were the case Maura would have rumors over the top about drug problems, because she is WAY prettier than Ivana and WAY more famous.
Like you said apart from beeing married to Goran we don't have her known for anything! All we know is this, which was handed to us by people from her homecountry.
Ah, who cares, it's not the point. I think the point that backs this up is the affair has been going on since 2003 (according to Mirella and it seems she has tapes of phone calls) and come on - A happily married man just doesn't keep an affair for that long.
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Post by hanna on Jul 16, 2007 16:40:24 GMT 10
Ok, don't get me wrong, but pretty and famous isn't an excuse. I mean if that were the case Maura would have rumors over the top about drug problems, because she is WAY prettier than Ivana and WAY more famous. Like you said apart from beeing married to Goran we don't have her known for anything! All we know is this, which was handed to us by people from her homecountry. Ah, who cares, it's not the point. I think the point that backs this up is the affair has been going on since 2003 (according to Mirella and it seems she has tapes of phone calls) and come on - A happily married man just doesn't keep an affair for that long. perhaps your being misinformed.
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Post by daniella on Jul 17, 2007 1:03:20 GMT 10
Crazy11, I don't want to enter in another discussion, but you know what ? It doesn't matter for the most of us, if Ivana was or wasn't famous before her marriage with Goran or what she did in life before meeting Goran...
We just think that, she deserves our respect on that matter... she wasn't the base of the matter... she is one of the victms here, even if you don't agree...
Now, Goran... we don't think that he was perfect, not now, not ever because the only person that was/is Jesus Christ...
As a human being, like we are, he makes mistakes, like us... he isn't even like Luka ( just some... )
And we know that a prefect marriage doesn't exit... without fights or discussions ? No, it doesn't exist... so stop saying that to us, because we aren't stupids...
No more of that question for me... bye...
Dani
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Post by jen on Jul 17, 2007 1:35:00 GMT 10
Exactly daniella. What Ivanna did in her past has absolutely nothing to do with anything. I don't know why some people keep harping on it. It seems like they are trying to say that it is her fault that Goran cheated on her or that she deserves it, which is ridiculous. I still love Goran and I understand he made a mistake and regrets it, but he is the one at fault here along with the gold digger he stupidly cheated with.
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Post by Hecate on Jul 17, 2007 7:25:01 GMT 10
Sorry I' m broken my rules this time and open my big mouth again :
No offence crazy 11, but do you really believe everything you read ? You know , show business is not 'Alice in wonderland': you have your real life and you have your job(here the show business) When you do your job , do you always show your real face ? No you have to be polite ( nothing to do with hypocrisy) .That 's like acting . As actor when you do a play , a film , a tv- show even an interview you do your job so you don't show your real face , you're acting . When I read Goran is finaly show his real face It makes me scream: no one understands show business protocol !
I hate hypocrites and I'm not in my private life but when I work Sorry I do : I have to be polite , folow rules ( even when I don't agree with my supervisors ) . And now I'm telling you something of my own experience : I' m maried to a family of artists. It's really dificult.If you don't act sometimes they eat you up like sharks but I have my parents and my friends where I can be the real person I am .
Muriel
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Post by luby2534 on Jul 17, 2007 8:18:20 GMT 10
Sorry I' m broken my rules this time and open my big mouth again : No offence crazy 11, but do you really believe everything you read ? You know , show business is not 'Alice in wonderland': you have your real life and you have your job(here the show business) When you do your job , do you always show your real face ? No you have to be polite ( nothing to do with hypocrisy) .That 's like acting . As actor when you do a play , a film , a tv- show even an interview you do your job so you don't show your real face , you're acting . When I read Goran is finaly show his real face It makes me scream: no one understands show business protocol ! I hate hypocrites and I'm not in my private life but when I work Sorry I do : I have to be polite , folow rules ( even when I don't agree with my supervisors ) . And now I'm telling you something of my own experience : I' m maried to a family of artists. It's really dificult.If you don't act sometimes they eat you up like sharks but I have my parents and my friends where I can be the real person I am . Muriel Go girl !!!
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Post by snowfall on Jul 17, 2007 9:14:27 GMT 10
It is precisely the fact that interviews are part of Goran's "job" that I, for my part, have come to highly doubt that Goran gave that interview in Story (especially after reading a more detailed account). No man in his position would reveal either the details of the affair (which do him no favors), nor the details of his wife finding out, nor would they insult and antagonize a woman he still has to negotiate with perhaps in a court of law. Goran has been in LA for 8 years. He has a press staff and lawyers - and there is no way he would give such a lengthy interview on such a sensitive issue without their advice.
In addition, he has always been very private about his family - now he is handing out details left and right?
I have never read any interviews with Goran that carry this kind of condescending tone. But I can't say it's a tone I haven't read before.
Either Goran has had a mental break - or this is not Goran. Perhaps the question is who benefits from this? It certainly is not him.
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Post by snowfall on Jul 17, 2007 10:09:35 GMT 10
He's definitely not moving the pieces on the board.
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Post by francosonata on Jul 17, 2007 10:23:38 GMT 10
I have to say that I agree with you about the tone of the interview. It sounds more like the one that Ivana gave in the same magazine a couple of months ago. She sounded really condescending, too. Does anyone know if this was done by the same interviewer?
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Post by frosty on Jul 17, 2007 10:44:42 GMT 10
Does anyone know if this was done by the same interviewer? The two interviews were, indeed, done by the same interviewer.
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Post by annita on Jul 17, 2007 11:10:53 GMT 10
Excellent point Snowfall!!! I swore I would stay off this subject, but unfortunately my curiosity got the better of me and I was reading the posts of various boards. After reading the posted translations of the separate interviews of GV and IV in Story magazine, all I can say is that this fiasco has turned into a three ring circus. IMO, we could refer to the three participants as the "clown", the "ringmaster" and "bearded lady". My gosh! I have always loved Goran and his acting abilities and always found him to be quite charming in any interview he's done over the years. But now ... I don't know who the heck this guy is or what's going on! Both GV and IV have made fools of themselves and IMO, the only one who has actually used her head is MR. She has been either smart enough or calculating enough to keep quiet, retain an attorney and have that attorney represent her in the media. GV and IV, on the other hand, have given separate interviews that are self-serving, inconsistent, contradictory and callous, even at some point referring to the child in question as a "creature"! Where are GV's attorneys or PR people? I believe the first thing they would have told GV and/or IV is to say nothing and let the professionals handle it. The reason behind GV sleeping with MR or the number of times they were together is not the point. That is speculation. What became fact is that GV had an affair with a woman he is not attracted to, and at some time, had unprotected sex with her, although he stated he hadn't seen this woman since primary school. He was adamant in saying he remembered nothing, except that she approached him. Boy oh boy ... he was really lucky he may have only gotten her pregnant ... he could have contracted an STD or HIV. GV also stated he travelled to Croatia alone to visit with his sick mother as he hadn't seen his parents for over a year and that IV stayed in LA to decorate the new house they bought, and didn't find it necessary to go then because her parents had already recently visited them in the U.S. Call me crazy but IMO, attending to a sick in-law on a different continent should take precedent over decorating plans. The contradictions go on and on ... IV said less than 2 years ago both she and GV did not feel the need to have children - GV said they started to plan to adopt two years ago, although GV states that IV can have her own biological children, and it's now pretty obvious that he can too, so why the rush! GV also states that it takes 2 years to adopt and they started the proceedings even before IV stated that they weren't ready for children. My brother adopted my niece from China and even with their laws, it didn't take that long. As a matter of fact, I know many people who have adopted and don't know of anyone who waited that long, unless, of course, there were extenuating circumstances. In this case, however, the biological mother carried the child for a normal gestation period and the birth was even induced for a specific date because according to IV, the date was special to her and GV. Yet, GV was not present for the birth and was out of town throughout May and June, and has now stated that although this past month has been so hard, spending time with his 3 month old son and wife has gotten him through. Tin is not 3 month old yet! GV sounds like a fool ... he is spending his time trying to convince everyone else how happy he is, how wonderful his wife is, how calculating MR is and how he was simply the victim of a plotted one-night stand. The more he and his wife say, the worse it becomes and they are leaving themselves open to the constant speculation, rumors and suspicion surrounding their character, their marriage, his and MR's affair and ultimate reason for the adoption! I know there are many posters to disagree with my opinion, but IMO, recent statements made by GV have only confirmed what many have suspected. I just hope both children do not have to suffer because of the choices made by their parents.
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