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Post by larue on Dec 3, 2007 4:07:51 GMT 10
Abby is responsible for Abby...and she knows that. It's the alcoholism and subsequent guilt for her relapsing that makes that makes her so unbearable these days. We can flog her all we want but still need to see that she has had this coming for a long while. I am loving Luka's response to things thus far. He may be clueless (although not totally) but he is being patient. He understands Abby when she is like this better than anyone...including herself. We saw that throughout the pregnancy story arc. She told Pratt that she feels like she is purposefully trying to screw things up. Luka may be mired in his own guilt for leaving her alone so long and grief over the loss of his father, but I think he is also going to stand by her and let her work through all this. I don't want him to be an enabler and I don't think he is headed in that direction. Back in season 7 we saw a Luby that participated in an escalating argument that resulted in their break up. I really felt like we were going to see something similar last week. Instead we saw him stepping back and alluding to her temper and frustration....and drinking. Now it's her turn to step up.
modified for crappy spelling errors......sigh
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Post by andrejia on Dec 3, 2007 4:09:26 GMT 10
I think Luka doesn't take this as serious as it is and thinks that "she had a little problem, she's better now" because he's never seen her drunk. Ever. She had a few beers in front of him that didn't change a bit her behaviour. and, unlike carter, he doesn't know how it is to fight with an addiction (not saying that carter was right to treat her the way he did, just making a slight comparison).indeed, he used alcohol to numb up in S9, he said so himself. and I think he relates to abby's alcoholism as something she's done like he did then.
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Post by mrseyre on Dec 3, 2007 5:15:56 GMT 10
I totally agree, and that's exactly the direction him being allotted responsibility for this would take him; if it's his fault this time it would be his fault forever after. If it wasn't this seperation that she hung a relapse on it would be something else eventually because it's clear that she hasn't properly owned her illness. I'm glad he walked away from her BS.
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Post by snowfall on Dec 3, 2007 6:40:14 GMT 10
I don't think anyone is saying it's his fault or his responsibility. Nor do I think he is being set up as the "bad" guy. However, I do think the writing has been balanced to show that Abby's decision to drink that night (and then to keep drinking to the point where she does something really terrible) had an emotional context that included Luka's prolonged absence and her sense that he was happy in Croatia.
It is, in fact, crucial if they are to resolve this realistically that he does not take responsibility (and, equally importantly, that she does not let him take responsibility) for her drinking and that he allows her to deal with it herself.
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Post by mrseyre on Dec 3, 2007 7:50:49 GMT 10
I think starbuckadidct (sic) was saying exactly that; many of the last few posts are in response to her posts.
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Post by larue on Dec 3, 2007 8:40:53 GMT 10
I THOUGHT I recognized her!! Dolores Salazar was played by the same actress that was the Mexican nanny in 'Babel'. Awesome, confusing movie. It was incredible to see how all these various uncommon threads were pulled into place at the end. SHE was magnificent in that movie...and quietly understated in this episode.
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Post by genna on Dec 4, 2007 4:16:02 GMT 10
ah! thanks for sharing that, i saw that film too and she was brilliant. I said in my earlier post how fantastic she was in this episode- she's a great actress. Totally breaks my heart!
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