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Post by mrseyre on Sept 6, 2007 0:41:12 GMT 10
She couldn't reach Luka when she needed to talk to him about their baby being hurt. That's not a no news is good news situation. Indeed; then she should call her sponsor or go to a meeting. This is about Abby, not about whether Luka is around. And of course, there's nothing to say that the first time she and Luka have a real row (as we all have I suspect) that this wouldn't be how she would react, so it isn't actually to do with Luka's absence but how she responds to it. This is the way the writers have decided to deal with the issue of her addiction, and one big problme with it for me is the suggesiton of dependency - she can't be left alone by Luka and if he does have to be away (and he has to be free to be away from her surely) then there is the temptation to lay the blame at his door. I have to agree that she appears to have become complacent about her alcoholism unless the lack of references to a sponsor (we don't have to see her there, just know that she goes) has just been an oversight.
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Post by annita on Sept 6, 2007 1:23:29 GMT 10
She couldn't reach Luka when she needed to talk to him about their baby being hurt. That's not a no news is good news situation. Indeed; then she should call her sponsor or go to a meeting. This is about Abby, not about whether Luka is around. And of course, there's nothing to say that the first time she and Luka have a real row (as we all have I suspect) that this wouldn't be how she would react, so it isn't actually to do with Luka's absence but how she responds to it. This is the way the writers have decided to deal with the issue of her addiction, and one big problme with it for me is the suggesiton of dependency - she can't be left alone by Luka and if he does have to be away (and he has to be free to be away from her surely) then there is the temptation to lay the blame at his door. I have to agree that she appears to have become complacent about her alcoholism unless the lack of references to a sponsor (we don't have to see her there, just know that she goes) has just been an oversight. Excellent points Mrs. Eyre ... it's not about anyone else. It's how Abby responds as it is with any alcoholic. I don't believe TPTB will make it about dependency at all. If we look back, Abby's handled major crisis for the past two seasons without the need to drink, but also without reference to her recovery program or asking for help. IMO, it was intentional by TPTB. Abby is happy now and has everything she thought she would never have a loving husband, their healthy child and a careeer. Things are good and she is finally happy. Unfortunately, many alcoholics who become complacent with their programs sometimes find it more difficult to handle happiness as it's a feeling they are not acustomed to so when she or the fans least expect it - bam! IMO, her time without Luka won't be about dependency, but rather, time for her to finally address her issues for herself ultimately leading to total acceptance by both Luka and Abby of who and what they are.
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Post by hinkydoodle on Sept 6, 2007 2:09:47 GMT 10
my post wasn't to point out it's Luka's fault that Abby drinks, but that Abby is very much in a stressful place in her life. The poster Daniella seems to think this isn't the case. You take everything I mentioned and add it all up and yes, Abby's feeling the pressure.
Alcoholics don't need that sort of thing to want another\r drink (they always want one) or to take a drink or get drunk. The show's writers are probably going to blame all the problems as her reason for drinking though. It's easier than trying to educate people about the disease.
And for Abby dealing with Luka's leaving, she isn't dealing. She's falling back into her disease. That is what we have been talking about isn't it? I don't see anyone here saying it's Luka's fault. the conversation has been about Abby and whether or not she has a reason to drink here. Being that she's an alcoholic, sure, she does. It's whatever she wants it to be.
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helen
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Post by helen on Sept 6, 2007 10:18:57 GMT 10
Yes, but like I said before, thos is no excuse to drink.. ................ Ok... I'm done with this... my opinion doesn't count just because it's different from the rest of you girls... Everything TPTB does with Abby, some of you appear to be happy or it's right about it ( it appears so, in your opinions )... I'm tired of it... take care... Dani There are differences of opinion and there are facts that are right or wrong. I'm sorry but in this case you are entirely misunderstanding alcoholism (or any other addiction for that matter). It's not like a bad habit that one needs a bit of will power to get over.
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Post by andrejia on Oct 11, 2007 1:47:42 GMT 10
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Jill
Lady of Luby
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Post by Jill on Oct 11, 2007 1:59:41 GMT 10
Thanks andrejia!
Goran has lost a lot of weight. IMO his hair is a little too black. But it's good to see him back on the set.
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Post by Jana on Oct 11, 2007 6:27:35 GMT 10
...thaaanks! ...awww...yeah, its great to see him... ...and btw I love Maura's hair there...
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becky
Junior Luby
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Post by becky on Oct 11, 2007 6:54:14 GMT 10
Luka, get a hair cut!!!!! lol
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Post by Luci on Oct 11, 2007 7:00:21 GMT 10
nooo, i LOVE his hair!!!
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becky
Junior Luby
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Post by becky on Oct 11, 2007 7:16:06 GMT 10
I don't lol it makes him look so much older with it long. I think it looks loads better short.
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Post by Jana on Oct 11, 2007 7:17:32 GMT 10
...I want him with looooong hair too!!! yaaay, moja dusice...you rock!
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Post by Christabelle on Oct 11, 2007 7:33:39 GMT 10
Luka back What i wouldn't do to run my fingers through his lushes locks of hair he looks so different but yet still as gorgeous as i remember! But am confused..! i thought we werent seeing him till the episode, 'coming home'..? or is he back for a brief visit..? not that am complaining also Abby..! she doesn't look happy, it's all downhill from here..! Edit: Just look at the pic of Luka again and the spoiler , this is him in Croatia. I think this is the scene where he makes his 'brief' call to Abby! might explain why she doesn't look to happy! but aleast we hear the phone conversation rather then hearing her talking about it. OK, one thing....! but please say this isn't one of his 4 episodes he's in..?! because if so, we've been robbed!
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cloudy
Duchess of Luby
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Post by cloudy on Oct 11, 2007 9:52:45 GMT 10
What picture are you guys talking about?
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becky
Junior Luby
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Post by becky on Oct 12, 2007 8:01:41 GMT 10
I think christabelle is right. Theres a cross on the wall where his standing and his family is religious. Also from what you can see the place he is in looks european.
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Post by hinkydoodle on Oct 12, 2007 8:20:05 GMT 10
I read the spoilers there (aeb) and Luka is definitely on the phone in Croatia calling Abby. He's not back yet.
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